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  1. #11
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    Alcyon Eldara
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    2.2 BiS is still BiS. Pentamelded 90 gear doesn't compare to 110.
    Not true. For your own DPS, you are mostly right (and Viridiana gave you an example), but a BRD with a lot of piety can run FOE for 10+ minutes and increase the average DPS of the whole group.
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    Last edited by Alcyon1; 07-16-2014 at 12:00 AM.

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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcyon1 View Post
    Not true. For your own DPS, you are mostly right (and Viridiana gave you an example), but a BRD with a lot of piety can run FOE for 10+ minutes and increase the average DPS of the whole group.
    Please tell me how much PIE a BRD needs to have to play Foe for 10+ mins, sensei.
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    Since I can't make a new thread going to ask here. I'm just starting to to T6-9 coils and was wondering about stats I should worry about. Right not my acc is at 516 but because of this I am losing lots of crit. Is my acc high enough or can I even down grade it to get more of a crit up. So right now I have a Dex of 514 Acc 516 Crit 426 and determination of 267. Any pin others would be great. Ilevel 94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Please tell me how much PIE a BRD needs to have to play Foe for 10+ mins, sensei.
    Considering 1965 MP lasts about a minute and 1 PIE = 8 MP.

    2381 PIE needed to sing foe requiem for 10 minutes

    But this doesn't take into account natural MP regeneration. I don't know the value for that.
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    Tiger Undie
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    the ramuh ring + ha ring should be bis since 2.3
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    Considering 1965 MP lasts about a minute and 1 PIE = 8 MP.

    2381 PIE needed to sing foe requiem for 10 minutes

    But this doesn't take into account natural MP regeneration. I don't know the value for that.
    First thing, 1PIE=8MP is wrong for BRD, or any class/job that are not caster. 1PIE = 5.26/5.27MP for BRDs

    Battle MP regen is 2% of your max MP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    First thing, 1PIE=8MP is wrong for BRD, or any class/job that are not caster. 1PIE = 5.26/5.27MP for BRDs

    Battle MP regen is 2% of your max MP.
    IF Foe is at 133 MP consumed per tick, it needs 1011 PIE to have 10 mins of foe

    1265 pie gives theorically infinite foe time

    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    so... your point is?

    if you guys haven't catch it, my original reply was sarcasm to Alcyon's post that says
    just quoting you for the sake of the numbers. Was continuing the math done before. Either way it's a dumb try to get 10 mins+ foe
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    Last edited by Kuwagami; 07-17-2014 at 11:48 AM.

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    Rui Ooshima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    IF Foe is at 133 MP consumed per tick, it needs 1011 PIE to have 10 mins of foe

    1265 pie gives theorically infinite foe time
    so... your point is?

    if you guys haven't catch it, my original reply was sarcasm to Alcyon's post that says

    Not true. For your own DPS, you are mostly right (and Viridiana gave you an example), but a BRD with a lot of piety can run FOE for 10+ minutes and increase the average DPS of the whole group.
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    Aria Placida
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    IF Foe is at 133 MP consumed per tick, it needs 1011 PIE to have 10 mins of foe

    1265 pie gives theorically infinite foe time
    Actually, 5,000 MP should be enough (with HQ X-Ethers) to hit the 10 minute mark, which is "only" about 576 additional PIE from gear. I mean, that makes PIE our main stat all of a sudden. . .
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    Sorry, I did the math 3 months ago and I only recovered my sheet now. It requires 2 BRD (at that time, our T8 group was running with 2BRD+SMN+BLM+DRG) with something between 2500 and 2750 mana (without potions) to keep 10 minutes of FOE.
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