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    491 is what a bard needs. Also think bard needs 5000 hp in t8 for homing + defensive combo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Probably depends on the content. The set I linked is high in SS, which would be brutal for, say, T8. Overall, though, I'd love to see how it compares in a live setting, I agree.
    Yes. I do not fully buy that stat weightage is everything. Because I know that when 2.2 started, I went straight i90 pentameld and technically some of the pieces there when pentamelded, by weight are considered BiS. But certainly when looking at parses back then and now, I do not believe that BiS solver set can beat a conventional i110 set lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    491 is what a bard needs. Also think bard needs 5000 hp in t8 for homing + defensive combo
    Not necessary, when I first ran T8 our DPS was around i93-95 (dropped lots of tank gear and subsequently healer gears so DPS was lacking behind). Just need good healers to be on the ball to top you up with a SCH that succor and drop a sacred soil etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    491 is what a bard needs. Also think bard needs 5000 hp in t8 for homing + defensive combo
    For T8, that's fine. But in T9 you spend the whole last part of the fight attacking from the front so you want as close to 515 as possible.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/N825 is what I'll be going for. Auroral ring isn't that good once you're at acc cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerker View Post
    For T8, that's fine. But in T9 you spend the whole last part of the fight attacking from the front so you want as close to 515 as possible.

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/N825 is what I'll be going for. Auroral ring isn't that good once you're at acc cap.
    Huh, the only time in T9 you will be attacking from front is:

    1) If you are tanking the blue golems
    2) Lunar Dynamo if you are not holding the thunderstruck debuff, by conventional strat

    Why would you attack from the front most of the time in phase 4?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Huh, the only time in T9 you will be attacking from front is:

    1) If you are tanking the blue golems
    2) Lunar Dynamo if you are not holding the thunderstruck debuff, by conventional strat

    Why would you attack from the front most of the time in phase 4?
    For phase 4, my group has everyone stacked on tank for fires and thunder runs behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerker View Post
    For phase 4, my group has everyone stacked on tank for fires and thunder runs behind.
    Which is what I meant in point 2) Everyone in front of Nael with tank and thunderstruck behind Nael.

    Other than for this situation and tanking blue golem, as a BRD you don't attack from front and demand the 515 frontal accuracy anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
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    You could stand behind Nael until you need to move in for fires and beam, a lot more movement is required and greater chance of missing a fire in or getting clipped by a thunder. You might not always be able to be behind Nael while waiting for novas and you generally won't be behind it for divebombs. The grace period after divebombs you can attack from behind. There's enough times in the last phase when you will be attacking from the front to try and get as close as 515 as possible. So much BiS bard gear already has plenty of accuracy, so getting close to 515 isn't difficult.
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    Last edited by Zerker; 07-25-2014 at 01:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerker View Post
    You could stand behind Nael until you need to move in for fires and beam, a lot more movement is required and greater chance of missing a fire in or getting clipped by a thunder. You might not always be able to be behind Nael while waiting for novas and you generally won't be behind it for divebombs. The grace period after divebombs you can attack from behind. There's enough times in the last phase when you will be attacking from the front to try and get as close as 515 as possible. So much BiS bard gear already has plenty of accuracy, so getting close to 515 isn't difficult.
    The thing is whether you do have those accuracy pieces or not, some people don't.

    And really it isn't necessary. Throughout all my clears, I don't remember I am in the frontal zone in phase 4 other than stacking for Lunar Dynamo, Fire or maybe Thermionic Beam.

    I am aware that some teams stack with the tank almost all the time, but this isn't my play style.
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