Forced stops in new 4 man dungeons

[Almalexia]

Hullbreaker's not so bad if your tank and healer know what to watch for.

Part 1 -
Beware of traps, Final Sting from bees, and knockback from mantiseseseses. Monkeys will give you a hard time with ranged attacks only, so you need to group on them.

Part 2 -
Have ranged/healer open mimics during pulls and rally on you. Stun Hatch to avoid additional adds.

Part 3 -
Pull the first group to the water spout. Beware the crab's DEF down, which is brief but devastating. Do the same for the second spout.

Stone tablet entry and jump'n'heal aren't any worse than keys at Haukkes or jumping down the mineshaft in Copperbell. Very minor interruptions.

I'm sure we'll have tactics for all 3 within the week.

[saeedaisspecial]

Hullbreaker's not so bad if your tank and healer know what to watch for.

Part 1 -
Beware of traps, Final Sting from bees, and knockback from mantiseseseses. Monkeys will give you a hard time with ranged attacks only, so you need to group on them.

Part 2 -
Have ranged/healer open mimics during pulls and rally on you. Stun Hatch to avoid additional adds.

Part 3 -
Pull the first group to the water spout. Beware the crab's DEF down, which is brief but devastating. Do the same for the second spout.

Stone tablet entry and jump'n'heal aren't any worse than keys at Haukkes or jumping down the mineshaft in Copperbell. Very minor interruptions.

I'm sure we'll have tactics for all 3 within the week.

You're forgetting that two of the three bosses have multiple long stops in their fights too where they go invincible, stopping people doing any DPS to them.
It all adds up.

[Moqi]

Picking up an object = 2 seconds
Using said object = 2 seconds

[saeedaisspecial]

Picking up an object = 2 seconds
Using said object = 2 seconds

Missing the point = However long you took to type that post.

[Wintersandman]

I am not understanding the complaint to its fullest extent. I don't get the whole forced stop and standing around. It's like 2 seconds or less.

[saeedaisspecial]

I am not understand the complaint to its fullest extent. I don't get the whole forced stop and standing around. It's like 2 seconds or less.

The point is one or two is fine, but being constantly forced to stop is irritating. The new dungeons go overboard with it,almost every pack or two of monsters is a stop point.
The bosses have stops, there's forced healing stops. Pickup stops.
No one enjoys driving and having to stop constantly for pedestrians to cross the road.

[Wintersandman]

The point is one or two is fine, but being constantly forced to stop is irritating. The new dungeons go overboard with it,almost every pack or two of monsters is a stop point.
The bosses have stops, there's forced healing stops. Pickup stops. It gets boring to go from combat to "welp, time to do nothing for a little while"

I don't recall all these stops you're talking about. I had people picking up stones while i was tanking. Hitting coffers while I was bringing a group to it. Even as warrior I was able to maintain my stacks of wrath. Which would be almost impossible the way you are making it sound.

[kukurumei]

Instead of saying "speed run" it's more proper to say

People are whining they can't go sub-15minute runs anymore...which is really...sad

SR used to mean streamlined which is usually sub-30minute dungeon. Now SR means mob trains, to get below 15minutes.

All the dungeons are speed run able. Just not train.

Blame the masses for changing the definition of "Speed Run"

[Sonofbaldo]

I have to say, considering how easy and quick it is to basically max out everything I dont feel you have a leg to stand on. As a casual gamer I was at lvl 50 before my trial month was even up. The rest of my FFXIV life will be repeating dungeons until i cant stand it anymore solely for vanity purposes of upping my gear. If a dungeon isnt fast enough for you, I feel it's because of your lack of patience and SE's unending quest to keep people with short attention spans playing by assuring the least amount of effort be required to progress in their video games has made some people a tad spoiled.

As other people have said, there are other dungeons for you to speed run. Ultimately what your quarrel boils down to is you want the premium rewards of this certain dungeon with the absolute least time involved and easiest path to victory available. It's a shame that SE is so fond of those like you. It's why they've completely abandoned any kind of engaging story lines for short bursts of fluff content designed to throw shiny new items at you like deer in headlights.

Also, please dont take any of this as an insult. You are the majority in the gaming world. So us old school gamers who like a challenge and story driven content are the losers.

[Brill_]

Sure, that's your right to. The issue is that before there were opportunities for both sides.

No there was wasn't. Before your options were speedrun or get kicked. There was never an option for non-speedruns.