Forced stops in new 4 man dungeons

[Jarvix]

Seems everyone here fails to see the reason for the change. It's not about player complaints. It's about the dev's design. Just as gold spammers can quickly ruin the game economy so can players collecting items at a greater pace than intended. That is what speed runs do.

[Shyluv]

Yeah. I can't believe they're making me play the game while I play the game. That's just crazy and lame.

It's a welcome change. Now I don't risk getting kicked if I don't feel good (which is more often than not) and don't feel like speed running, if my friends are too busy with other stuff to do roulettes with me.

[Xikaz]

I think the fact trash mobs hit likes trucks, at least it seemed like to me in SV and HI, is more prohibitive to speed runs than the invisible walls. A normal group of trash puts out a lot more single target dps than any of the bosses.

You're free to try pulling a huge pack, but unless the group is ilvl 100+ you're probably gonna be face down in the dirt pulling anything more than 2 groups awfully fast.

[Shioban]

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[Tule]

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This is the most incredibly spinned post I've ever seen. Boss = Stop? So.. you don't want bosses? Counting tethered mobs as a "stop"? You can still pull the entire room and aoe the hell out of everything. The tethered boss just dies a little slower. Counting tablets and keys to open doors? Really? So 7 stops is awful. Using your logic.

Braflox.

Stop after full pull for doors

Boss

Stop after second pull for goblin to explode rock

Boss

Stop for first gate

Stop for second gate

6. If you don't include final boss. 7 if the first pull is just to the bridge and you lock out the last two mobs.

[saeedaisspecial]

This is the most incredibly spinned post I've ever seen. Boss = Stop? So.. you don't want bosses? Counting tethered mobs as a "stop"? You can still pull the entire room and aoe the hell out of everything. The tethered boss just dies a little slower. Counting tablets and keys to open doors? Really? So 7 stops is awful. Using your logic.

Braflox.

Stop after full pull for doors

Boss

Stop after second pull for goblin to explode rock

Boss

Stop for first gate

Stop for second gate

6. If you don't include final boss. 7 if the first pull is just to the bridge and you lock out the last two mobs.

I'm not counting the bosses as stops. Read what I said properly.
The bosses have text dialogues before they even spawn, they literally waste time. Those are stops.
In certain fights monsters become invincible for periods of time, those too are stops. Saying "well they're just mechanics" is silly, because they're designed that way, therefore intended as stops.

[Tule]

Two seconds? You're acting like they have a forced cutscene. Its part of the fight, so it is the boss.

[Audacity]

You can Clear Tam Tara pretty fast with good players so hope is not lost for people who like to speed run. I don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to clear content as efficiently as possible. Just as you have the option to not speed run, we should also be allowed to do our thing.

[Charisma]

I'm not counting the bosses as stops. Read what I said properly.
The bosses have text dialogues before they even spawn, they literally waste time. Those are stops.
In certain fights monsters become invincible for periods of time, those too are stops. Saying "well they're just mechanics" is silly, because they're designed that way, therefore intended as stops.

You know, MMORPGs have RPG in it, and i think you are clearly playing the wrong genre, if u dislike it this way.
but why am i telling this to someone who likes tank and spank.

[Yumi_umi]

I think the fact trash mobs hit likes trucks, at least it seemed like to me in SV and HI, is more prohibitive to speed runs than the invisible walls. A normal group of trash puts out a lot more single target dps than any of the bosses.

You're free to try pulling a huge pack, but unless the group is ilvl 100+ you're probably gonna be face down in the dirt pulling anything more than 2 groups awfully fast.

This this this thissssss,
Stfu guys and listen to this guy.
These new dungeons have mobs tht hit like trucks due to the higher ilvl of the dungeon.
Another thing is instead of hating the new flow of the 2.3 dungeons, y not grab a few buds and try and make your own speed run and share it with the forums? I mean thatsss way more productive then contemplating about the next Brayflox hm speed run.