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  1. #71
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    Wintersandman's Avatar
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    Winter Sandman
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Azryol View Post
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    They don't have to do a roulette. If they need xyz dungeon then they can group up and queue for it. Problem solved.

    People are complaining about this me me me attitude. But reality you guys are expressing the same.
    -I have to wait because tank left.
    -I had to post pone my animus because tank left.

    I have also said it has happened to me. I have leveled dps to 50 and I can empathize with the long wait queues. But I suck it up because when I am rolling a dps I know it takes longer. You guys are blaming tanks when you can suck it up and level one. Your animus quests don't require roulettes, get your LS or FC to assist you. Shorter wait time and you know the tank.

    Go ahead implement your harsher penalties and watch the wait times go longer. Because tanks won't want to do DF/roulettes and will just do PF or run with their LS/FC.
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  2. #72
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    Azure_dragon-'s Avatar
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    Joan Wolfkrone
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    Faerie
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    I have both Tank classes and healers Lved to 50 and now i'm currently finishing up dps classes, all which are 15+-50 right now. Please, take your own advise and create dungeon runs with your FC/LS or suck it up when you get placed in dungeons you don't like. I'd much rather wait longer to do something knowing nobody is going to drop it just because "they don't feel like it."
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  3. #73
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    Pawah Mujuuk
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    They don't have to do a roulette. If they need xyz dungeon then they can group up and queue for it. Problem solved.

    People are complaining about this me me me attitude. But reality you guys are expressing the same.
    -I have to wait because tank left.
    -I had to post pone my animus because tank left.

    I have also said it has happened to me. I have leveled dps to 50 and I can empathize with the long wait queues. But I suck it up because when I am rolling a dps I know it takes longer. You guys are blaming tanks when you can suck it up and level one. Your animus quests don't require roulettes, get your LS or FC to assist you. Shorter wait time and you know the tank.

    Go ahead implement your harsher penalties and watch the wait times go longer. Because tanks won't want to do DF/roulettes and will just do PF or run with their LS/FC.
    Please do! and please run the dungeon you like with only your group or PF and leave the DF/DR alone and that will be a great help for the whole sever or whole data center! (since they will pick you from whole data center and group you to run the dungeon, if I remember correctly)

    You said you wanna help people so you queue for DR? If you queue up for DR and leave because you don't like it, then, what you are doing is not helping, in fact, it's making thing even worse!

    I DON'T CARE IF I HAVE TO WAIT LONGER FOR A TANK just once it's up we can complete it because if you leave like that it's the same or worse result!. And do tell me who is selfish between ones that did what they sign up to do and ones that leave because they don't want to.

    I gonna play a tank and be a good tank when I played and gonna try my hardest not to s*it everyone around like that. May be there some circumstance that I have to leave but at least I will try to do the best I can
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    Last edited by Puwarh; 07-12-2014 at 01:40 AM.

  4. #74
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    Winter Sandman
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Puwarh View Post
    You said you wanna help people so you queue for DR? If you queue up for DR and leave because you don't like it, then, what you are doing is not helping, in fact, it's making thing even worse!
    Please explain how me not queuing is going to make it better and along with the other tanks doing the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Puwarh View Post
    I gonna play a tank and be a good tank when I played and gonna try my hardest not to s*it everyone around like that. May be there some circumstance that I have to leave but at least I will try to do the best I can
    Yay you can be a big kid too!

    People are complaining about tanks dropping. Tanks are complaining about a lack of respect.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ank-disrespect.
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  5. #75
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    Adrian Silverthorn
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Understand that I don't think there is a way to fix this. The 30 minute ban does not even work. If I don't want to do the dungeon I simply shut down the program, go get a cup of coffee and log back on. The game will not give me the penalty for DC. It only gives the penalty for leaving. Every time I try to think of something I go back to the DC option. How can you punish someone whose computer happens to disconnect.

    Try this perhaps

    Once a person signs up for the daily Roulette his toon is flagged and will be unable to enter any other instance content until he has completed a random choosen Dungeon successfuly.
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    Last edited by Jarvix; 07-12-2014 at 02:18 PM.

  6. #76
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    Pawah Mujuuk
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    Please explain how me not queuing is going to make it better and along with the other tanks doing the same.
    If you do queue for random then got the dungeon and leaved the moment it start the clock will ticking in the dungeon without a tank, sometime it would take 45-1hr to get a replacement tank, if we choose to leave we have to wait another 15-60 mins to re-enter if you chose not to queue at least the dungeon won't start and the clock won't ticking. When some tank absent from DF/DR the waiting time might be longer but when it start it can be complete with the team that at least will try what they choose to start, so, I would say IF YOU WANT SPECIFIC DUNGEON THEN QUEUE FOR SPECIFIC DUNGEON, IF YOU DO WANT TO HELP, DON'T LEAVE at least not without try to complete it with your group.


    I understand tanks get some disrespected form time to time but, is that the reason you leave right after you got the dungeon? without got any disrespected from the group? It's not good if you cannot tolerated insult but at least you have the point to ditch that group. If you just have been put in a group that insult you immediately after the dungeon start without give you any explanation why then at least you have the reason.

    One reason that tanks will be a lot under pressure and get insult easily is once the dungeon start the one that will be leading the group is the tank. So when things got out a hand usually they blame it to the tank even when look into the detail it's not there fault. Humans trends to blame other than themselves anyway.

    And not only tanks got insulted healer and DPSes got them to some come from tanks some come from other. No matter how good people play, no matter what job they choose to play if people want to insult they just did.

    Any reason not clear? I will try give explanation if asked.
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  7. #77
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Tonberry
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    Conplaining about tanks in a game where anyone can be anything. -shrugs-
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  8. #78
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    Estellios's Avatar
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Hyperion
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    Monk Lv 77
    re: people leaving dungeons because people are wearing spiritbond gear...

    Have you ever asked if they can switch to their regular gear instead of immediately dropping?

    I SB in the easier dungeons (accessories only) if i get them but I will switch to my regular gear if someone has any issues with it.
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  9. #79
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    Conplaining about tanks in a game where anyone can be anything. -shrugs-
    It's not like Eden Eternal where a person could immediately switch class in the dungeon and pick up the slack. We're locked into the roles, we can't change them even when we want to. I've done a few dungeons where the tank left immediately, and if given the chance to I would have immediately switched to tank right then and there and done it myself. But we don't have this luxury, we have to wait for replacements. I believe that is the main reason for the complaining, we can't just instantly replace a tank who left.
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  10. #80
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    Aoibhinn Mhacha
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    re: people leaving dungeons because people are wearing spiritbond gear...

    Have you ever asked if they can switch to their regular gear instead of immediately dropping?

    I SB in the easier dungeons (accessories only) if i get them but I will switch to my regular gear if someone has any issues with it.
    It's easier to drop than to get someone to stop leeching.
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