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  1. #3071
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    How do we feel about doing less single target damage than BLMs now?
    Dude i always see you in here posting about drg being low dps and that one finally made me post. You need to learn how to play drg if the blm buff made them do more than you. Maybe ill link my stream next time i do coil so you can see how much dps a real drg can do. Ive seen you say before monk plus bard is better then drg plus bard, maybe you just need a good drg to show you thats not true, now im sure this is going cause you to throw a fit and cause a huge discussion but im tired of everyone downing drgs. I crush the dps on drg and ill be damned if a blm ever beats me, drg is the better melee of the 2 for ever turn as well xcept t8. Now learn to maximize and compete before you come inhere with the blm does more than drg single target, the way you should have said that is blm does more damage than YOU single target.
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  2. #3072
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    Yan Dere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    Dude i always see you in here posting about drg being low dps and that one finally made me post. You need to learn how to play drg if the blm buff made them do more than you. Maybe ill link my stream next time i do coil so you can see how much dps a real drg can do. Ive seen you say before monk plus bard is better then drg plus bard, maybe you just need a good drg to show you thats not true, now im sure this is going cause you to throw a fit and cause a huge discussion but im tired of everyone downing drgs. I crush the dps on drg and ill be damned if a blm ever beats me, drg is the better melee of the 2 for ever turn as well xcept t8. Now learn to maximize and compete before you come inhere with the blm does more than drg single target, the way you should have said that is blm does more damage than YOU single target.
    MNK is 8% more damage than DRG on average, and bard buff with disembowel is 7% since it doesn't affect dots. Therefore, MNK+BRD>DRG+BRD. DRGs only do more when there's 2 bards in the raid. I mean, BLMs who know what they're doing can do 430-440 on T8 pre patch, which gave them a 10% damage buff. This would lead them to around 470-48x. Forgive me for not being a real DRG but the most I can do in t8 is probably 460, and that's if I don't do any mechanics or LB.

    Maybe you just play with awful MNKs and BLMs.

    Also, not once have I said that DRGs are not viable or that I want any buff besides a cut in elusive jump cd. You're just uninformed about numbers or something if you think that DRGs can pull similar dps as MNKs, or DRGs are better than MNKs at t6, t7, and t9. Assuming the same mechanics, at best it'd probably be a wash.
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    Last edited by rickyguo; 07-11-2014 at 05:28 AM.

  3. #3073
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    Lo Ra'mzei
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    MNK is 8% more damage than DRG on average, and bard buff with disembowel is 7% since it doesn't affect dots. Therefore, MNK+BRD>DRG+BRD. DRGs only do more when there's 2 bards in the raid. I mean, BLMs who know what they're doing can do 430-440 on T8 pre patch, which gave them a 10% damage buff. This would lead them to around 470-48x. Forgive me for not being a real DRG but the most I can do in t8 is probably 460, and that's if I don't do any mechanics or LB.

    Maybe you just play with awful MNKs and BLMs.


    Seriously, though, just play a different job if you have such an issue.
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  4. #3074
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushido_Brown View Post


    Seriously, though, just play a different job if you have such an issue.
    "not once have I said that DRGs are not viable or that I want any buff besides a cut in elusive jump cd."

    I'm just putting out numbers that are correct to the best of my knowledge, wheres the actual hate?

    Whatever I'm done posting in this thread.
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  5. #3075
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    "not once have I said that DRGs are not viable or that I want any buff besides a cut in elusive jump cd."

    I'm just putting out numbers that are correct to the best of my knowledge, wheres the actual hate?

    Whatever I'm done posting in this thread.
    Im not mis informed, my numbers dont lie.
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  6. #3076
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Got my Guardian's Body of Maiming. It looks soooo bad...but the stats are soooo good
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  7. #3077
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Also, that Ramuh Ring is definitely something we need as DRG. 17Crit/9DET in exchange for 13SS and 2 STR (the High Allagan). Sure, use the HA ring when you need it (Turn 8/9) but everywhere else...
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  8. #3078
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Got my Guardian's Body of Maiming. It looks soooo bad...but the stats are soooo good
    Same ^^ Myth chest glamour forever!
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  9. #3079
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    Travis Cavallero
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    Hey guys i'll be a dragoon in a couple levels and hopefully will someday understand what this threads about. But in the mean time, later on I want to be pretty good at pvp, will that be something a dragoon is capable of?
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  10. #3080
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    Greinbroes Ganztylsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoSixSided View Post
    Hey guys i'll be a dragoon in a couple levels and hopefully will someday understand what this threads about. But in the mean time, later on I want to be pretty good at pvp, will that be something a dragoon is capable of?
    Anyone is capable of being good in PvP, but your success is not tied to your own actions, you need to be coordinated with your party members and fellow alliance members if you want to win.
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