Game content is full of mistakes...much worse than FFXIV 1.23

[Alukah]

So "number of people who bought tickets" is a bad way to measure popularity now?

The only valid way to measure popularity is to ask Otoha and Tupsi, they hold The Truth©

[Kerowyn]

Oh look another "remember those Golden Olden Days?" threads. Nothing new to read here. And yeah while open world is a cake walk I think they've struck a nice balance of difficulty for Open World versus Instanced/Dungeon Content.

Oh and I agree with the one person that talked about Sandbox versus Theme Park. I think SWG did a nice job that way. I used to love running Faction Attacks against Player Bases and what not. That is before the NGE screwed the pooch on that game.

[Almalexia]

I maintain that there were a lot of things in 1.23 that were "done right" and will be missed, and a lot of things done wrong that will not. Altogether ARR is a net gain, even though I don't like all of the changes. At the very least, I understand, intellectually, why the changes were made.

In many ways 1.23 scratched an itch left behind by XI when it, in the days of Abyssea, started to change trajectory. I'll wager most of the people longing for 1.23 feel the same way. Part of coming to terms with ARR is accepting that no, ARR not a love letter to XI and it will never, ever capture "that FFXI feel." It's not supposed to. The sooner people criticize ARR on its own merits the sooner they can make rational decisions about whether to spend their cash on a sub, instead of pining for 1.23/XI every goddamn day and feeling entitled to it because you're still a subscriber of ARR.

[Alkimi]

Now that's a lie and you know it. There was not much content in 1.0 but there were challenging and interesting fights.

Yes input lag was a problem but don't come and tell me none of it had any depth just because you think so.

OK I'll give Ifrit Extreme as an example. All 1.0 had was eruptions, plumes, dashes and nails. There was no healer debuff, no tethers, no explosion damage from nails, no multiple incinerates and no tank swapping. All it had was the horn breaking thing and the fact that he used his abilities at random. You can't tell me that with this current game's architecture that 1.0's Ifrit Ex would be anything less than a walkover.

[Tupsi]

OK I'll give Ifrit Extreme as an example. All 1.0 had

Less scripted attacks - targetable body parts which completely changed a monster's move rotation, proper combo system and so on.

[WeiShan]

I haven't watched it, but for MMOs that analogy doesn't work, people watch a movie once, but for MMOs it's not just sales, it's also subscriptions.

The active population of ARR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the active population of 1.X

for MMOs, it's about meeting new friends,new adventures,help each others, good memories,
ARR has none of them


ARR is something like Mcdonalds, Beats headphones, but what's inside them are garbage/low quality stuff

[Potatoes]

1.0 is gone man, let it go.

[Namasu]

for MMOs, it's about meeting new friends,new adventures,help each others, good memories,
ARR has none of them


ARR is something like Mcdonalds, Beats headphones, but what's inside them are garbage/low quality stuff

That's your fault for not choosing to look for those things in ARR. Other people, including me, are doing fine and have fun with our friends in the game. Troll harder.

1.0 is gone man, let it go.

Yea, it's almost seem like this guy is paid monthly to troll this forum with the same old 1.0 spiels and terrible english.

[Duelle]

Altogether ARR is a net gain, even though I don't like all of the changes. At the very least, I understand, intellectually, why the changes were made.

In many ways 1.23 scratched an itch left behind by XI when it, in the days of Abyssea, started to change trajectory. I'll wager most of the people longing for 1.23 feel the same way. Part of coming to terms with ARR is accepting that no, ARR not a love letter to XI and it will never, ever capture "that FFXI feel." It's not supposed to. The sooner people criticize ARR on its own merits the sooner they can make rational decisions about whether to spend their cash on a sub, instead of pining for 1.23/XI every goddamn day and feeling entitled to it because you're still a subscriber of ARR.

Quoting for emphasis.

[Lemuria]

People are very quick to admonish 1.0 because it failed, but people rarely address the actual reasons behind WHY it failed. A lot of the features in the old version were frankly superior to what we ended up with in ARR but were removed to simplify the gameplay experience. The OP isn't wrong when he says that a lot of the complexity from the original has been lost. Classic case of throwing the baby out with the bath water.

That's not to say 1.0 was a great game, not by a long shot. It was plagued by UI issues, great expanses of nothing-much-to-do and more lag than you can shake a modem at. There were however several things it did right, and did well.

Mobs weren't just annoying distractions, they were genuine threats on the field. I can't even remember the last time I died to an enemy outside of a dungeon or Fate in ARR, but it used to happen a whole lot more back then.

Remember elements? Fire, ice and so forth? They used to mean something too! Now it's just "spam fire, cast blizzard to regen, spam fire...". And what about the other skills in our arsenal?

Hit mob for X potency damage is all fine and dandy, but at the end of the day, there's very little to distinguish one DPS from another, just a handful of throwaway unique skills which aren't even that special in most instances.

I have a dream that one day tactics will make a comeback to Final Fantasy (see what I did there?). A day where black mages will have a suite of spells to deal with elemental resistances, instead of spamming the same two elements over and over. A day where people will say, "We really need a <insert job>" because of some unique trait which distinguishes them from the crowd, not just mere job roles.

It may be a lofty dream, but I don't think its impossible with the system we currently have. It just needs some tweaks in a positive direction.