Thread: Game content is full of mistakes...much worse than FFXIV 1.23

Originally Posted by Alkimi

Any "difficulty" 1.0 had was tied to the input lag and animation lock. Remove those and the fights would all be incredibly easy.

Now that's a lie and you know it. There was not much content in 1.0 but there were challenging and interesting fights.

Yes input lag was a problem but don't come and tell me none of it had any depth just because you think so.

Originally Posted by Colino

Now that's a lie and you know it. There was not much content in 1.0 but there were challenging and interesting fights.

Yes input lag was a problem but don't come and tell me none of it had any depth just because you think so.

OK I'll give Ifrit Extreme as an example. All 1.0 had was eruptions, plumes, dashes and nails. There was no healer debuff, no tethers, no explosion damage from nails, no multiple incinerates and no tank swapping. All it had was the horn breaking thing and the fact that he used his abilities at random. You can't tell me that with this current game's architecture that 1.0's Ifrit Ex would be anything less than a walkover.

Originally Posted by Alkimi

OK I'll give Ifrit Extreme as an example. All 1.0 had

Less scripted attacks - targetable body parts which completely changed a monster's move rotation, proper combo system and so on.

Originally Posted by Alkimi

Any "difficulty" 1.0 had was tied to the input lag and animation lock. Remove those and the fights would all be incredibly easy.

I'm sorry, this absolutely isn't true. :/ Whilst I'm not going to sit here and say anything was better or worse, the difficulty of many 1.0 versions was vastly higher than what we have in ARR, the largest difference being that ARR has faaaar more endgame scenarios whilst 1.0 had none until Ifrit and darkhold. I'd like to point out on 1.0's release week, people ran out in to the fields first day and were absolutely slaughtered left and right by dodos of all things, so much trial and error and you didn't know something was too strong for you until you were lying in a crumpled heap on the floor. I was a tank and always got the best gear for my level, id take a whole party of my LS with me and venture in to the open dungeons. Generic levelling mobs would hit me for 60% of my health every 2-3 seconds (god help me if something aggroed or broke sleep) and we needed so much support magic to get through that crap, we'd level for hours, tons of death and sometimes I didnt even get a single sword or shield level. This was with about 7 people too i believe.

The NM's were outrageously strong until they were patched later, I once had a battle against Phaia that took my party of three 27 minutes of frantic healing and defending, adapting to his behaviors, knowing our cooldowns and we were only 5-6 levels below him and very well geared, he would hit me for about 80% of my health per attack. It was quite a while before people could tackle higher NMs solo because levelling was slow for a long time. Some parts of the map were nearly inaccessible due to lv 99 enemies protecting them that couldn't be roflchoco'd past. Most generic roaming enemies had behaviors or quirks. Body parts needed to be broken off them to prevent special moves, they'd AoE if you stepped on them, follow you around, run if you took your weapon out or readied a special attack, enter a nearly impenetrable defensive mode until you cracked their shell. They hit like a train, took little damage and aggro'd like hell and you were damn lucky if you escaped a botched fight. if you looked away from the screen during a levequest or encounter, chances were you'd die, second wind was basically mandatory for every class. I would frequent across so many dead bodies asking for help on my travels but in ARR its usually because someone went afk in the wrong place. You couldn't sit there tapping 1,2,3 for 10 seconds whilst you watch tv until quite a few patches later when everyone caught on to how OP thaumaturge, stoneskin 2 and marauder were, and things got much easier in open world once Yoshida came in.

I'm not saying this is better but god damn it was harder and the lag was really only a huge problem once things like Ifrit came in to existence, believe it or not, stuff can be (and was) difficult outside of level cap. Everyone whined and whined that it was simply TOO hard, the forums were littered with constant complaints about this, the word 'easy' was never used until Yoshida took over. For the most part SE was like well, just deal with it cuz its not changing. I dont need to recount anything that happened after that as we all know, but it is what it is. 1.0, 1.23 and ARR were all incredibly different from eachother, but Tanaka's era was brutal compared to Yoshida's. A flawed tragedy for many reasons, but brutal none the less.

Did OP mentioned 1.0 animations is alot realistic than 2.0 yet? (higher quality)

They're right though.
The way certain things worked in 1.23 are flat out better than the way they work in ARR. I wouldn't go as far as the OP is saying, but some of the good things were definitely thrown out with the bad.
Just look at the new hunts, mindless zergs. NMs in 1.23 were at least kinda neat.