SE why??

[PetiteMalFleur]

Divine, I spent 50 hours grinding my 12 atma. It was by far the most irritating part of the quest. I can tell you how it's worth it and all but I know when you're getting no reward after days of grinding it starts to feel pretty hopeless. My best advice is to just take a break from the frustration and do something else for a few days.

[Adler]

The way Atma work for me:
- join region you need an Atma from and do Fates for 20 min
- if there is no Atma then switch to another job and try another 20 min
- if there is still no Atma go do some dungeons

Got all Atma in couple of weeks doing fates about 30-40 min a day. Noticed that Atma drops for me when I actually do my job well (like having hate of all mobs whole duration of fate as tank or killing mobs super fast as dps). Also noticed from my friends and fc members that they got Atma much faster using jobs they are best at - so if you have multiple jobs with Zenith weapon, try to switch to other.

If you have just 1 job and people in dungeons still often try to give you advice on how to get better (or simply say that you suck) then your Atma grind might tike "a while longer".

[PetiteMalFleur]

If you have just 1 job and people in dungeons still often try to give you advice on how to get better (or simply say that you suck) then your Atma grind might tike "a while longer".

Skill has nothing to do with drop rate.

[Divine_Intervention]

Update, as of the opening of this thread, still stuck at three atma. At least 4 hours a day farming different areas. Just about ready to give up on this if it wasn't for the fact i prefer the stats of the eventual whm novus over the high allagan. -facepalm- sort it out square enix! at least increase the drop rate. (can someone confirm, current drop rate of atma is about 3%?)

[Magis]

Took me about 2-3 weeks to get all my Atma. Then another 2-3 weeks farming myth and completing books. Frustrating? Yes. Was it worth it? To me, yes. I can proudly wield my glowy bow knowing I put the effort into it.

THIS RIGHT HERE.

The grind is annoying, but it makes the end so much sweeter. This was the issue with a lot of MMO's "rewards" vs "back in the day".... the rewards didn't mean anything. This is speaking from a guy who still needs to do 4 more books.

Skill has nothing to do with drop rate.

No, but determination does. Having the will to slog through the grind takes determination and from some of the complaining it seems a lot of people don't have that. However there are alternatives so.

[ZodMel]

We now interrupt the following thread with a random comment.

I like cookies. Espcially if they are chocolate chip cookies made with love.

[Rombus]

It took me one week and 391 FATEs to get my ATMA, mind you I only did FATEs and nothing else while logged in. I'm sure if I did roulette and other in game stuff I will still not have my ATMA. It's not fair for ppl who don't have much time to play, prob why it's taking a lot of ppl 2-4 weeks to complete! It feels good having it! I will be getting my first book after update

[Rombus]

Also watching a movie or listening to music really helps ease the boredom of the grind. Music was my salvation!

[Jican]

The way Atma work for me:
- join region you need an Atma from and do Fates for 20 min
- if there is no Atma then switch to another job and try another 20 min
- if there is still no Atma go do some dungeons

Got all Atma in couple of weeks doing fates about 30-40 min a day. Noticed that Atma drops for me when I actually do my job well (like having hate of all mobs whole duration of fate as tank or killing mobs super fast as dps). Also noticed from my friends and fc members that they got Atma much faster using jobs they are best at - so if you have multiple jobs with Zenith weapon, try to switch to other.

If you have just 1 job and people in dungeons still often try to give you advice on how to get better (or simply say that you suck) then your Atma grind might tike "a while longer".

Actually, there is no magic to getting any Atma, it's pure rng. What you do may make you feel better, in which case you trick yourself into thinking it makes a difference, but it doesn't. The director already stated himself it's all luck, nothing else.

Also for those that are obsessed with the "time" aspect of fate grinding, think of this for a second. Let's say you and a friend are both doing atma for 1 hour a day. You BOTH do the same amount of time, but your friend does 10 fates in that hour while you only do 5. Your friend gets his atma faster than you, not because he's "better" at his job, or faced north for fire HQ, or had carby dancing while you scratched your butt, but because he inherently did more in the same amount of time. So instead of thinking of how much time you put into fates, count the fates they took you to get the atma. You'll then realize that you either do a lot less fate grinding than you thought in the amount of time you had, or RNG god hates your guts.

I'm in no means saying the atma system doesn't absolutely suck, and even as an avid grinder, i personally hate the atma portion of the relic and thinks it should be scratched completely, or at least give you more than a different colored relic after taking away your glowing awesomeness that was zenith. There are a hundred ways to make atma more worthwhile, but I also see the reason SE doesn't touch it yet.

For those that still need atma, don't give up. The road is long, annoying, and not in your favor at all, but if you can stomach the crap, it'll be worth it in the long run. Nothing is greater than the sense of accomplishment after you get all 12 and move on to your books. Best of luck to you all.

[Squa11_Leonhart]

The way Atma work for me:
- join region you need an Atma from and do Fates for 20 min
- if there is no Atma then switch to another job and try another 20 min
- if there is still no Atma go do some dungeons.

ATMA are not bound to job, you might collect multiples in an area within minutes of each other, or you might not.

i say 30 minutes a zone, with a few near by easily accessible fates, and if nothing, move on to another.

You BOTH do the same amount of time, but your friend does 10 fates in that hour while you only do 5. Your friend gets his atma faster than you, not because he's "better" at his job, or faced north for fire HQ, or had carby dancing while you scratched your butt, but because he inherently did more in the same amount of time. So instead of thinking of how much time you put into fates, count the fates they took you to get the atma.

This get repeated alot, but its wrong. RNG is RNG, the amount of fates done do jack all to increase the odds of getting an atma drop.

Solar flares and seismic events are more likely to affect RNG than 'determination'