SE why??

[Divine_Intervention]

Okay, for those that don't know me. I'm a patient person. I enjoy a grind in a game, i enjoy putting some good time in, and reaping my rewards for doing so.

However. Seriously SE, what the HEEEELL were you thinking with this Atma Crystal RNG crap? I've not had a drop in DAYS, however a friend who started last night now has 4 or 5. I'm sitting at 3. Yes, 3. After about a week.

I've got patience with you SE. I accept you can't get everything right, but to lock this damned weapon (which at that point , doesn't even upgrade stats) behind a damned roll of the dice. You're making me very bloody upset.

Sort it out please.

[Black91CRX]

Took me about 2-3 weeks to get all my Atma. Then another 2-3 weeks farming myth and completing books. Frustrating? Yes. Was it worth it? To me, yes. I can proudly wield my glowy bow knowing I put the effort into it.

[Divine_Intervention]

Lol, I wondered how long it would take for an "if it's worth it you'll do it" reply. Yes, i realise a lot of people out there will be saying "oh well we did it by grinding". As I said, I don't mind a grind. But this is bloody pathetic. Here diligent player, roll a dice! oh, you didn't get the number 1 out of a 100? Go roll again!

I know i'm not alone in being irritated by this. A skill gate, sure. Behind some rock hard quest line or dungeons, sure. Damn even a once a week reward of an atma? Yeah, I'd take that. It's this literal starting by telling myself "well, might get one tonight, all tonight, or none tonight. There is no timeframe on this, no skill required but to mindlessly grind on simple fates, over and over.

[Bombast]

Relic weapons are designed to be powerful weapons that can be gotten by anyone, regardless of skill level, exchanging the 'skill gate' for a grind that gets you the second best weapon in the game.

Its an alternative for people who cannot complete Coil 2 (Or whatever the newest raid is at the time). It is not there for your approval. It's not here to be fast. It's here to give you a chance if you are currently not up to the end game raiding snuff.

I say this as someone who just got Coil 2 unlocked about a week ago, and who's unlikely to get High A. stuff any time soon.

If you want a faster weapon that is obtained through skill, then get into Coil 2. If you cannot do so, then don't get pissy because SE didn't make what might be considered by some a freebie (Skill wise) 'easy' enough for you.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

If Relic weapons were supposed to be for "anyone can easily do", then I am stumped to why people were stuck on Titan Hard for weeks and months at a time before the nerfs came.

[Divine_Intervention]

lol, i'm currently working on titan extreme, and coil 5. i'm pretty sure i'll get to second coil soon enough. Yeah, i'll probably get a wep from there, but i have no doubt at some point soon relic weapon is going to overtake dropped weapons.

Seriously though, yeah, i get it. i take my hat off to you who can sink hours a day into trying to get 1 atma crystal and walking away with nothing. i bow to your almighty patience. The fact remains, this is a STUPID system of luck.

It is not there for your approval. It's not here to be fast. It's here to give you a chance if you are currently not up to the end game raiding snuff.

.... If you cannot do so, then don't get pissy because SE didn't make what might be considered by some a freebie (Skill wise) 'easy' enough for you.

As a paying customer, I'm pretty damn sure it's there for my approval. Do a quick forum search and see how much 'approval' this system has gotten. And no, it's not a freebie. As mentioned in my original post, i don't mind a grind (go look at my craft/gather classes .. those are a feasible grind), i just don't like a luck based 'you may never actually get this' system.

[dspguy]

Divine, I sounded like you back when this Atma stuff came out. My wife and a friend of mine were all doing this atma thing at the same time. After a few days, I was 2/12, wife was 6/12 and friend was 9/12. That was with all of us fate-ing the same amount of time. However, the RNG, since it IS random does even out. Another 3 days and I was 9/12, wife was 10/12 and friend was done. Point is, my wife got 4 in 3 days and I got 7. It more or less evened out.

But what Bombast said is spot on. Atma/Animus/Novus weapons are obtainable by people with never stepping into very difficult content. The exchange of spending hours learning how to do second coil (which you can't be carried through) vs killing a whole lot of level 40 and under stuff and doing some dungeons, fates, leves... I won't say it takes less time to learn coil than to obtain an animus, but you can do the grind for animus with little challenge.

[Divine_Intervention]

Hey Dspguy. Yeah, i can't understand the RNG will even out eventually, can't stay unlucky all the time huh? :P

But yeah, as i say i don't in any way diminish the work people are putting in for these, and i do complain about it but i'll still get on with it xD. Personally I want to be working on animus AND doing the higher level content anyway. I'm just a bit miffed with severe bad luck with the roll of the dice lol!

[Bombast]

As a paying customer, I'm pretty damn sure it's there for my approval. Do a quick forum search and see how much 'approval' this system has gotten. And no, it's not a freebie. As mentioned in my original post, i don't mind a grind (go look at my craft/gather classes .. those are a feasible grind), i just don't like a luck based 'you may never actually get this' system.

I always love the 'paying customer' argument.

You are not paying for gear, easy times, and blow jobs delivered to your house. You are paying for entrance to a game. A game that requires effort of some sort to get a reward. If it doesn't require effort, and you pay for it, it's 'pay to win.' If that's what your looking for, there are a multitude of options available to you. You can try Mechwarrior Online, or Defiance.

[Divine_Intervention]

lmao bombast. once again, re-read my post. i DON'T MIND WORK in a game. this is not work. this SECTION of the game is chance. ALL chance. You've worked for your weapon some say, i disagree, you just got lucky with fate drops. 1 hour or 50 hours, it's all luck. I have NO issue with putting work into getting gear. I have issue with a lazy game system that is PURE CHANCE.

So, let's repeat again, just in case you didn't get it. "It is NOT working for a weapon that's an issue, it's the system it is based on". Try to keep up.