Any chance that the fanfest ingame items will be sold on mogstation?

[Tupsi]

This has nothing to do with that...

If you want to twist it into that - As said, what's the difference between someone losing out on this item compared to someone losing out on an item they can get with preordering the game? You know, like the Cait Sith Minion some may like? You can no longer get those if you didn't preorder, as that's the only way to. Did you pre-order? Do you have a Cait Sith Minion? If you say yes then where are all the topics from people complaining they can no longer get it? Or that it should be on Mog Station....? That, the Mog Cap and any other limited items are no longer possible to get. The last Years TGS earrings? Unless Calamity Salvager sells it to people you can no longer get those either....

So SE has already done exclusive items that some seem to have forgotten about.

I didn't really see anyone complain about that like they are here. The thing is, the opportunity to get this exclusive item is open to everyone while the tickets are available, which I think is the point many are making. if you can't go it's truly not that big of a deal, if you really want it, find some way to get there.

Why does there need to be so much imaginary value put into the item in the first place? Are people going to the event just to get the in game item? The reward for going to the event should be just that, GOING TO THE EVENT where you be there in person with the developers hearing everything first hand and being there with all of your fellow gamers and friends. lol.

You know, the ones in support of making this available to everyone are the ones putting a lot of value on it, not the ones who understand this is an incentive/perk of going to the event, which every company that has conventions or fan festivals does. You know how much exclusive stuff I can get at Comicon that no one complains about?

[Nikita]

Why are you so quick to jump on people who say that the item should stay exclusive when you're basically doing the same exact thing, just from the other side of the fence? If they shouldn't put so much "imaginary value" into the item then why is it such a big deal if you (and others) can't get it without going to Fan Fest?

Why are you so quick to jump on people who want in game items to be available to everyone equally regardless of geographical advantages? I'm not doing the same exact thing. Ispano said that allowing the item to be sold on its own would devalue the item and I am saying that the item is valuable for all the wrong reasons, because basically you're saying that the item should be rare because only certain people can spare so much money to attend this event.

You know, the ones in support of making this available to everyone are the ones putting a lot of value on it, not the ones who understand this is an incentive/perk of going to the event, which every company that has conventions or fan festivals does. You know how much exclusive stuff I can get at Comicon that no one complains about?

Exactly, it's like you understand somewhat yet it is still somehow escaping your grasp. You're so close, you might soon understand why we care.

Yes, it has value to us. It has value to us who take pride in the appearance of our characters. It's purely cosmetic, yes! We who don't care about being top of the line raiders do indeed care about other aspects of the game.

Let me ask you this question. What if the perk for going to this event was receiving, oh, I don't know, an extra turn to coil that drops exclusive top of the line armor?

You understand that we value cosmetic items yet you can't seem to put yourselves in our shoes. Try asking yourself what if the perk for attending this event was something YOU cared about.

[Mcshiggs]

Why are you so quick to jump on people who want in game items to be available to everyone equally regardless of geographical advantages? I'm not doing the same exact thing. Ispano said that allowing the item to be sold on its own would devalue the item and I am saying that the item is valuable for all the wrong reasons, because basically you're saying that the item should be rare because only certain people can spare so much money to attend this event.

Long long ago Yoshi was asked about this kind of stuff and he said he didn't want anything to be available to some but not others because you couldn't make it to an event, that's why instead of people beating Titan back in the day didn't get items, they drew a server name out of a bag and everyone on that server got the items. I guess they think this event is accessible to everyone because they are having it in three different countries.

[Tupsi]

Long long ago Yoshi was asked about this kind of stuff and he said he didn't want anything to be available to some but not others because you couldn't make it to an event, that's why instead of people beating Titan back in the day didn't get items, they drew a server name out of a bag and everyone on that server got the items. I guess they think this event is accessible to everyone because they are having it in three different countries.

Which in all actuality, it is unless the cities that's hosting the event banned you from visiting - Otherwise nothing is keeping you from going besides:

1. Time.
2. Money.
3. Ticket Availablity.

What Yoshida was talking about though, was items that would tip the balance more so than vanity items. For example White Ravens, everyone had the ability to get those, only a handful of people did though, but the transition to ARR butchered them heavily anyway. It's also ironic despite the large outcry of "no cash shop!" people seem to be wanting one everyday xD.

You understand that we value cosmetic items yet you can't seem to put yourselves in our shoes. Try asking yourself what if the perk for attending this event was something YOU cared about.

See, if I answer this you won't like it - I fully realize there comes a time I can't have everything I want. If I didn't pre-order, I wouldn't get a Cait Sith doll and Moogle Cap (still didn't get it...), if I want them now, I'm out of luck. If I don't go to the event I won't get whatever items they're passing out, I understand that.

If i don't take part in the community contests, I won't ever gey an Ahriman choker unless I win a contest, I realize this.

[Nikita]

See, if I answer this you won't like it - I fully realize there comes a time I can't have everything I want. If I didn't pre-order, I wouldn't get a Cait Sith doll and Moogle Cap (still didn't get it...), if I want them now, I'm out of luck. If I don't go to the event I won't get whatever items they're passing out, I understand that.

If i don't take part in the community contests, I won't ever gey an Ahriman choker unless I win a contest, I realize this.

That's a perfectly acceptable answer. Some of those items you listed are ones I care little for also and don't bother me much. That's not to say there aren't people who care about them though. Also, all of those items were much more affordable, and the Ahriman choker was never put behind any sort of money barrier. They're really not on the same level, but I can appreciate you trying to sympathize.

The items I care about are say exclusive mounts and outfits, not random hats.

[Tyrial]

Snip.

It would devalue the item and it should remain exclusive to anyone who actually attended the event.

You're acting like I don't understand your point and I do. I get what it's like to see that piece of gear or whatever and be like "Damn...really wish I had that!", but it's a fleeting feeling and it's definitely not something to get into an uproar over. So you can't have that one glamour piece, is it really the end of the world? Do you know how many runs of Turn 1 I've done to date and not seen the Allagan Shield drop, meanwhile almost every other PLD I've seen running around at the time that it was still the "Go To" shield had it. You understood Tupsi's point with the contest rewards and Pre-order minions/hats. This is no different. Whatever item they get at Fan Fest should be limited to attendance, otherwise they may as well just slap it in a vendor in game and let you buy it for 100 gil.

I'm honestly not trying to act like a dick and I'm a pretty compassionate person, but do you not see the flaw with the argument for having all these exclusive items available for purchase in the Mog Station?

[Mysteran]

You understood Tupsi's point with the contest rewards and Pre-order minions/hats. This is no different. Whatever item they get at Fan Fest should be limited to attendance, otherwise they may as well just slap it in a vendor in game and let you buy it for 100 gil.

This is different than pre-order bonuses and the like though. For the Pre-order bonuses, every one who wanted to play the game got to spend more or less the exact same amount of money in the same time frame to get it.

For a Fan Fest held in only three cities globally, one person may just have to purchase tickets because they live in the city. And maybe take a couple days off work. Another person may need to take a week off work, get an updated passport, arrange and pay for international travel (like our Australian friends for instance) to one of the events that mostly speaks their language, pay for room and board, and hopefully don't have any other personal issues at the time interfering with them being away for so long.

This gives a huge advantage to a small portion of the player-base who live in certain geographical locations just because they live in that area.

And really, that doesn't take into account those that don't speak English or Japanese as, from what I can see, those will be the two main languages for the event. Everyone else will miss out as well.

[Tyrial]

Snip.

It's no different. They're exclusive items. Regardless of what it took to get them, they're still exclusive. Unless they add them into the Pre-Order for the next Expansion that they release those items are locked forever. So by your same logic not everyone has the same chance to get them.

Just because you can't attend Fan Fest in any of the three locations it will be held doesn't mean you're entitled to the same rewards as somebody who can go. That's just not how it works.

[NinjaTaru72]

I think it's highly unfair to the people who go, for all you others to complain about them an item. They are going to the event. They have to pay God knows how much for flying/driving hotel, food, other things. Yes, it's. Nice that they can enjoy the event. But it's also nice that se is giving them something.

And i think it's rude and spiteful that people they deserve the same item for "entitlement" reasons. If you can't go. That sucks.

If to getting that rare mount or minion is that gambreakingly craze driven into your head, guess what? EBay. Because I bet money that people will (if possible) sell redemption codes online. If that's how they give the exclusive item.

[ruskie]

Hmmmm. I'm sad that I won't be able to go - mainly due to time and cost - yes, because some of the friends that I play with will be attending and I could meet them. Am I sad that I won't be able to get an ingame item? Sure. Will it go beyond: Owww that's sooo insert_proper_adjective_in_here and then forget about it 15 minutes after? No.

I much prefer they don't add a cash shop. And I'm sure they will be streaming atleast parts of the fanfest to all without any additional costs - it's as much a marketing excersie as it is a fan event(and yes I know I'm to cynical).

And I wouldn't be surprised if they make a beat $boss_of_week competiton there and distribute some virtual item to a designated server - and basically include everyone that way.