macros: bad for DPS?

[Odett]

Learn to use R1 effectively to toggle between bars on a controller and you'll see that you will always have extra room for skills. Using macros for rotations is is a DPS decrease. Apart from the longer activation, it can kill your flexibility. Comfort is not what raises your DPS output, it's reacting appropriately to what is going on in a fight and keeping your rotation up.

[Amberyl]

...but the very first post has a vid of someone doing the same rotation side by side losing dps by using macros.

Now do that on a mouse or keyboard with two decimal place accuracy to their driver-based/hardware-based macros, and tell me it will be less. Read my posts, perhaps, rather than just spewing venom at them. Top tier players using hardware macros do exist. I've sat and listened to many on vent and ts, and what they're doing is extremely easy to replicate with inexpensive, widely available hardware. They are not being banned for their behaviour, so why are players adhering to TOS who only use the client to macro, still being penalised?

You can't claim the top tier are some idyllic group of players who only ever do things manually, because this simply isn't a blanket truth.

[SarcasmMisser]

I can't believe someone would macro their umbral rotation, not only is it a situational rotation thats impossible to macro due to mana regen timing but what do you do if you have to move? Not to mention you're a Black Mage, your rotation is not hard and you're wasting your spell speed.

You are guaranteed to be a terrible damage dealer.

[Rankina]

Macros are great for DPS. However you need to know when to use them.
Every class i have has a full rotation of their main abilities. However, the only time these are used, is when there are movement-intensive mechanics where more attention has to be payed to staying alive than pressing your hotbar keys. Being able to just stay within hit range of your target but pay full attention to movement and the surrounding area is a big bonus. Cant DPS if you're dead. So that slower rotation is a good payoff for staying alive.
If you can stand still, or have a relaxed fight, having all your abilities on the bar and using in optimal rotation with that .5 less between everything is awesome.

Stop playing Monk.

[Morningstar1337]

I can't believe someone would macro their umbral rotation, not only is it a situational rotation thats impossible to macro due to mana regen timing but what do you do if you have to move? Not to mention you're a Black Mage, your rotation is not hard and you're wasting your spell speed.

You are guaranteed to be a terrible damage dealer.

Having a macro and using are two different things. I more often gonna use it when soloing or under rare circumstances then in team instances.

[saeedaisspecial]

You can't claim the top tier are some idyllic group of players who only ever do things manually, because this simply isn't a blanket truth.

You're posting about idyllic situations. How do I know high end players don't do this? Because this isn't a a game where everything can be perfectly calculated to run smoothly with a macro.
The "ideal" rotations in this game have been perfectly timed and calculated by players to get maximum uptime/DPS. They work perfectly on dummies, but not against encounters with monsters, because of AoEs that need to be dodged, adds that need to be killed, phases that require holding DPS.
You need to be flexible enough in combat to account for such things, there's a reason we haven't automated everything in life, because human judgement needs to be made.
Say you're in a fight, you have to dodge some AoEs and stuff, you start to fall behind in the "perfect" rotation, you need to make adjustments to make sure nothing drops off. Limiting yourself to a rigid macro is not going to allow you to work around these changes that need to be made.
Smart, high end players realise this. Nothing in this game requires so much focus that automation is necessary. There's a reason high end players are high end, because they can do it all. Go look at other games, where high end players in games such as starcraft are hitting insane amounts of actions per minute, and are still able to focus and plan out a game to victory.

[Fantasy9]

I use two macros on my BRD. One is for silence that I had setup for Coil and the other is for all my buffs. The one for my buffs is actually faster than activating each one individually.

[TheMax1087]

Read my posts

I've been reading your posts, it's obvious from them that you aren't reading the topic though(or you have been reading it and are being intentionally dense as your trolling mechanism), as you keep bringing up hardware macros when the topic is obviously about ingame ones.

[Rhas]

Macros don't work in decimal seconds. Only whole seconds. Any /wait used in a macro is automatically rounded up to a whole second, so a /wait 2.5 would become a /wait 3 to the game. Meaning you're losing up to 0.5-0.7 seconds every GCD, the higher your skill/spell speed, the more DPS you're potentially losing.

Umm... yes they do. you can test it yourself using /emotes. There is a difference in how much of the emote play between between 2 and 2.2 and 2.5.

Unless they changed it very recently. I used decimal points in creating my own dances before they added the new ones in (ie harvestdance, etc) and after they added them in I even fine tuned a few of them with decimal points so that they meshed together with the animations I wanted to do.

Never used them in combat since its always been better (for me) to do everything manually. (dps-wise)

edit:
Just tried doing my old macros again and they no longer seem to mesh properly like they used to so maybe they did change it at some point.

[Zephyranthes]

Only bards can macro DPS and not lose effectively.