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  1. #1
    Player
    Illrayth's Avatar
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    Illrayth Stromguard
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    woah, this turned into a slug fest.
    i think everyone acknowledged quickly, including me in my post (although i should have said DPS Classes/Jobs, not necessarly DPS output), that the macro has less than optimal dps. no one is arguing that in any way shape or form. I also didn't say that having a DPS Rotation macro is the only way a DPS is going to use their abilities. Far from it. 95% of all my abilities used are optimaly used manually.
    But a macro to take over on derp moments, movement phases where you've got lag and have to concentrate harder than normal, someone in the room throwing something at the back of your head (IRL distractions), etc.
    God no, if you JUST use a macro, thats not smart. but having one to use in some situations is a good thing.
    lazy low level dungeons where you dont want to out dps tanks who have poor threat management.macro dps with friends on a casual dungeon lets you type to your party members, crack some jokes, have some fun.

    dosn't have to be 100% all the time "go go go" to maximum potential or your a bad player. your high horse wants a rest. get off him.
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    Last edited by Illrayth; 07-07-2014 at 01:40 PM.

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    Odett Telos
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Illrayth View Post
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    There will never be a time where a macro will trump correct manual input when it comes to DPS. Part of the challenge and (subjective) fun is knowing how to get back on the horse after a derp moment.

    For low level dungeons, I personally like to get them over with as fast as possible. As a tank, I think it's really fun competing with a good DPS because it adds more fun to a run, but if a tank finds it aggravating and is actually using their skills properly, I might target a different mob once I agro one. On the other hand, if it's a "haha riot blade" tank, and I explain to them how to tank better and they don't do it, then I won't have qualms about going all out because accommodating yourself to someone doing a poor job generally breeds bad players.

    Some people like to go 100% all the time. They find it fun to test new things on monsters and trying to get the most damage they can, so there's really no high horse to dismount.
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    Last edited by Odett; 07-07-2014 at 01:56 PM.

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    Blowfin Jr
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    For Bards the 3 in 1 make little to no difference, if you're paying attention, it's actually been tested. Plenty of top tier bards use it and their numbers are right up there. It's even arguable that it's easier to pump out better numbers by not having to manually fire each skill.

    Any macro with a <wait> in it for GCD abilities is a massive no-no though.
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    Egg Soup
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    Scholar Lv 50
    *Grabs popcorn, reading posts while macro healing party*
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    Player Adler's Avatar
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    Adler Lett
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I have no idea why would a dps need macro. Tank can use macro for provoke and other stuff to warn party members of what he's gonna do. Healer can use some macros, but dps just kill stuff, avoid aoe and pay attention to what tank and healer are macroing.
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    Geovana Fletcher
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    Mateus
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    Archer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Adler View Post
    I have no idea why would a dps need macro. Tank can use macro for provoke and other stuff to warn party members of what he's gonna do. Healer can use some macros, but dps just kill stuff, avoid aoe and pay attention to what tank and healer are macroing.
    I use macros to tell the party I used silence(was essential in coil) and another to pop all my buffs as BRD. So much faster to macro my buffs and I don't actually lose valuable seconds on my buffs like I would if I tried popping the buffs individually.
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial View Post
    This is probably the most obnoxious macro I've ever seen.
    You haven't seen that one FFXI boost macro. Looks like it'd be funny the first time seeing it but later becoming obnoxious
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    Hali De'blois
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    You haven't seen that one FFXI boost macro. Looks like it'd be funny the first time seeing it but later becoming obnoxious
    The boost macro was a joke and meant to be obnoxiously long for effect. SokiYagami's is just painful.
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    Soki Yagami
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    Tonberry
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Well... it helps to raise my dps a little bit more... bad habit carry over as a dps haha ^^;

    It started off from HG and holmgang macro though... but if a healer drops me an esuna/leech on the second time I pop berserk, I'm usually giving them my commendation if possible.
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    Soki Yagami
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    Tonberry
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    Samurai Lv 70
    What's wrong asking for esuna/leech after berserk ends though? It's not like I kick up a fuss or anything if I don't get it, it's a nice bonus if I do though. And I do get them from time to time during DR.
    But like I said, this came over from my HG / holmgang countdown macro. My healer friend once said she can toss an esuna for me if she knows when berserk is going to end, hence how this macro came about.
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