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    SeleneVenizelos's Avatar
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    Character
    Tete Rouge
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bunsen View Post
    Ya you must have done something wrong.. it is pure 100% with those stats.
    I was using another Basic Touch instead of the Standard touch. How embarrassing!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bunsen View Post
    Condition shouldn't matter. Maybe.. just maybe you get a poor when BB.. but I personally have yet to fail with this rotation and I've been using this rotation since very beginning of release.
    There is no 'Maybe' about it. If you want to claim a rotation is '100%' there can be no maybes. Yes, the chance of a Poor on Byregot's is low but it's not low enough to ignore it. Your rotation falls to the same shortcoming as mine if you merely spam it without a care for condition: a Poor on Byregot's and it won't reach 100%. It will still probably HQ. I think mine reaches 70-something% with a Poor on Byregot's and it's usually a HQ anyway.

    My point was, in regards specifically to Byregot's, a rotation can't be truly 100% if you leave anything to chance. You are leaving it to chance that you might have a Poor on Byregot's. There is no way your rotation is reaching 100% quality with a Poor on your Byregot's. My macros are set to counter that little short coming, for those who care, and how not to if you don't care. Although, I must admit, I am skeptical how much of my post you actually read, since I already said that in the original post, along with other things you have said.

    We both have excellent rotations, which is good enough for me! Mine is a little faster, yours doesn't require Artisan. People will use whichever they like. You don't have to argue my rotation's use because it fulfills the same purpose as your own.
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    Last edited by SeleneVenizelos; 07-03-2014 at 04:39 AM.

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    Bunsen's Avatar
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    Smokey Mcpot
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    I was using another Basic Touch instead of the Standard touch. How embarrassing!

    There is no 'Maybe' about it. If you want to claim a rotation is '100%' there can be no maybes. Yes, the chance of a Poor on Byregot's is low but it's not low enough to ignore it. Your rotation falls to the same shortcoming as mine if you merely spam it without a care for condition: a Poor on Byregot's and it won't reach 100%. It will still probably HQ. I think mine reaches 70-something% with a Poor on Byregot's and it's usually a HQ anyway.
    I can agree with your comment. With my rotation you can ensure 100% if you add a safety macro like you did to take an alternate path given the very slim chance that you would get a poor on Byregot's Blessing.

    #1 (2 Star 80 Opener)

    /ac "Comfort Zone" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <me> <wait.2.>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Waste Not" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Ingenuity" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /echo <<<<<–If Excellent hit #3–>>>>> <se.7>

    #2 (2 Star 80 Finisher)

    /ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
    /action "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /action "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /echo <<<<<–END MACRO!!–>>>>> <se.10>

    #3 (Safety Finisher)

    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
    /action "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /action "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /echo <<<<<–END MACRO!!–>>>>> <se.10>

    With Byregot's Blessing on Excellent condition, I would think Great Strides would not be needed and was removed in #3.

    I hope that it isn't looking like I'm trying to say "my rotation is better than yours" I just want people to know that a very good rotation does exist for people who do not have Artistan's yet.
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    Last edited by Bunsen; 07-03-2014 at 05:52 AM.