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  1. #31
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    I just hate that in order to reliably HQ most 1 star or higher, you need to be leveled in most classes. Someone who just specializes in one crafting class is crap out of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black91CRX View Post
    I just hate that in order to reliably HQ most 1 star or higher, you need to be leveled in most classes. Someone who just specializes in one crafting class is crap out of luck.
    Specialise in all of them and win the crafting game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    If your rotation uses Hasty Touch, it is not 100%. It might reach 100% fairly often but there's still times it won't. This rotation will, every single attempt. That's the difference. I myself despise relying on RNG as it's such a brutally cruel mistress. I sought to remove RNG from the equation and that's what I made here.

    As I clearly stated in the original post, this rotation is not for people without Artisan Tools. Yours is and I'm sure it's a good rotation. Share a link to it so people reading this who might not have their Artisans can use it.
    Ok... maybe mine doesn't have Hasty Touch lol..... Apologies ^^;.... But still, everyone who doesn't have Artisan Tool.. below is the BEST rotation if you are fully melded (no meld needed in off-hand).. If anyone has a quicker rotation, I would love to hear about it ^^/

    50 Alchemy
    50 Weaver
    50 Carpenter
    37 Culinary
    15 Blacksmith
    15 Leatherworker

    Craftsmanship: 359
    Control: 351

    80 Durability 2 Star MACRO ROTATION (341 CP Required):

    2 Star 80 Opener

    /ac "Comfort Zone" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <me> <wait.2.>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Waste Not" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Ingenuity" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /echo <<<<<–NEXT #2–>>>>> <se.7>

    2 Star 80 Finisher

    /ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
    /action "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /action "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /echo <<<<<–END MACRO!!–>>>>> <se.10>
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    Last edited by Bunsen; 07-03-2014 at 02:00 AM.

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    Specialise in all of them and win the crafting game.
    Booooooooooooooooooooo lol
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  5. #35
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    That's a nice rotation indeed, I just tried it out. It reached 99% with Normal (2916/2921 Quality - so close!) on every step on an Apkallu Omelette and that is with 362 Control, 11 more than you recommended. Still very decent but if it relies on a single Good at some point to reach 100% it still relies on RNG, albeit marginally. You also don't have any insurance against a poor on Byregot's. You should rearrange your macros so that Great Strides and Byregot's is separate, or at least give people a disclaimer that these macros might not reach 100%. Mine will everytime as they're broken up to prevent that ruining the synth.

    I won't dispute the use of your macro - it is very good since it can be used without Artisan Tools. It is slower though and as I stated plainly in the first post, my rotation is aimed at speed crafting of two star foods. I can synth my rotation in 26 seconds manually.

    Also, I would like to point out at no point did I use hyperbole and say mine was the best or better than anyone else's. I simply said it was a good, efficient, fast rotation and it is.
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    Last edited by SeleneVenizelos; 07-03-2014 at 02:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    That's a nice rotation indeed, I just tried it out. It reached 99% with Normal (2916/2921 Quality - so close!) on every step on an Apkallu Omelette and that is with 362 Control, 11 more than you recommended.
    If with that control you failed to reach 100% with all normal condition for touches, you did something very wrong.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    If with that control you failed to reach 100% with all normal condition for touches, you did something very wrong.
    Ya you must have done something wrong.. it is pure 100% with those stats.

    Condition shouldn't matter. Maybe.. just maybe you get a poor when BB.. but I personally have yet to fail with this rotation and I've been using this rotation since very beginning of release.

    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    Also, I would like to point out at no point did I use hyperbole and say mine was the best or better than anyone else's. I simply said it was a good, efficient, fast rotation and it is.
    Ya I believe yours is 17 step and mine is 18 step.. but lets be honest, the point of speed/mindless crafting food is to do quantity. To manually hit every action and memorizing the rotation leaves room for human error from being repetitive.. which possibilly could mean not HQing making it not 100%. In my opinion, not worth saving that extra few seconds. Macroing and not having to worry about which button to press because of condition I feel is more productive and less stress on the mind. With my macro, it is 2 buttons.. no if, then or buts. Just spam


    Thanks,
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    Last edited by Bunsen; 07-03-2014 at 05:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunsen View Post
    Condition shouldn't matter. Maybe.. just maybe you get a poor when BB.. but I personally have yet to fail with this rotation and I've been using this rotation since very beginning of release.
    It would matter if there was a Poor for Byregot's, it's a slim chance, but is possible.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunsen View Post
    Ya you must have done something wrong.. it is pure 100% with those stats.
    I was using another Basic Touch instead of the Standard touch. How embarrassing!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bunsen View Post
    Condition shouldn't matter. Maybe.. just maybe you get a poor when BB.. but I personally have yet to fail with this rotation and I've been using this rotation since very beginning of release.
    There is no 'Maybe' about it. If you want to claim a rotation is '100%' there can be no maybes. Yes, the chance of a Poor on Byregot's is low but it's not low enough to ignore it. Your rotation falls to the same shortcoming as mine if you merely spam it without a care for condition: a Poor on Byregot's and it won't reach 100%. It will still probably HQ. I think mine reaches 70-something% with a Poor on Byregot's and it's usually a HQ anyway.

    My point was, in regards specifically to Byregot's, a rotation can't be truly 100% if you leave anything to chance. You are leaving it to chance that you might have a Poor on Byregot's. There is no way your rotation is reaching 100% quality with a Poor on your Byregot's. My macros are set to counter that little short coming, for those who care, and how not to if you don't care. Although, I must admit, I am skeptical how much of my post you actually read, since I already said that in the original post, along with other things you have said.

    We both have excellent rotations, which is good enough for me! Mine is a little faster, yours doesn't require Artisan. People will use whichever they like. You don't have to argue my rotation's use because it fulfills the same purpose as your own.
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    Last edited by SeleneVenizelos; 07-03-2014 at 04:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeleneVenizelos View Post
    I was using another Basic Touch instead of the Standard touch. How embarrassing!

    There is no 'Maybe' about it. If you want to claim a rotation is '100%' there can be no maybes. Yes, the chance of a Poor on Byregot's is low but it's not low enough to ignore it. Your rotation falls to the same shortcoming as mine if you merely spam it without a care for condition: a Poor on Byregot's and it won't reach 100%. It will still probably HQ. I think mine reaches 70-something% with a Poor on Byregot's and it's usually a HQ anyway.
    I can agree with your comment. With my rotation you can ensure 100% if you add a safety macro like you did to take an alternate path given the very slim chance that you would get a poor on Byregot's Blessing.

    #1 (2 Star 80 Opener)

    /ac "Comfort Zone" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <me> <wait.2.>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Waste Not" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Ingenuity" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /echo <<<<<–If Excellent hit #3–>>>>> <se.7>

    #2 (2 Star 80 Finisher)

    /ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
    /action "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /action "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /echo <<<<<–END MACRO!!–>>>>> <se.10>

    #3 (Safety Finisher)

    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
    /action "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /action "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /echo <<<<<–END MACRO!!–>>>>> <se.10>

    With Byregot's Blessing on Excellent condition, I would think Great Strides would not be needed and was removed in #3.

    I hope that it isn't looking like I'm trying to say "my rotation is better than yours" I just want people to know that a very good rotation does exist for people who do not have Artistan's yet.
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    Last edited by Bunsen; 07-03-2014 at 05:52 AM.

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