The "To DPS" vs "Not DPS" Debate

[Cynfael]

This thread is a little silly because there should be no debate.

If you want to be a fully contributing party member, you do whatever you can to facilitate completion of your goal. When you don't need to pay full attention to healing, the focus should shift to DPS. As long as the healer manages MP correctly and understands fight mechanics, this should not be an issue. SCH have even less excuse to be idle than WHM since MP management is pretty much a non-issue with Aetherflow and constant free heals from the fairy.

[Sanguisio]

SCHs have no reason not to heal unless they are soloing 8manC or being pushed due to MP.

WHMs, can dps at certain points.

[Ashkendor]

This thread is a little silly because there should be no debate.

If you want to be a fully contributing party member, you do whatever you can to facilitate completion of your goal. When you don't need to pay full attention to healing, the focus should shift to DPS. As long as the healer manages MP correctly and understands fight mechanics, this should not be an issue. SCH have even less excuse to be idle than WHM since MP management is pretty much a non-issue with Aetherflow and constant free heals from the fairy.

Not to mention the fact that Lustrate ignores Cleric Stance's effect on healing skills. So you have ample opportunity to get your DoTs out there and still keep your tank up if something untoward happens while you're applying them.

I end up spending most of my story roulette dungeons in Cleric Stance, as well as low level ones.

[DeadRiser]

My main is a healer, and when I do random tank runs and I see a healer is just standing there,
I take offense to that since it's what I consider my main. I've even told a guy "Hey, you aren't
really doing anything, you should help with dps ^^". He was a scholar and starting spamming
ruin. WAT

It should be a decision of the healer, but if a tank chimes in and he thinks they healer can dps
then the healer should definitely take that into consideration. Sometimes it feels good to not
do a speedrun and heal/dps as a healer.

[givemeraptors]

My main is a healer, and when I do random tank runs and I see a healer is just standing there,
I take offense to that since it's what I consider my main. I've even told a guy "Hey, you aren't
really doing anything, you should help with dps ^^". He was a scholar and starting spamming
ruin. WAT

I'll stand around as a healer and not do anything.
If I wanted to DPS I would have queued as a DPS (SMN).

[Cynfael]

I'll stand around as a healer and not do anything.
If I wanted to DPS I would have queued as a DPS (SMN).

That's fine if you don't mind slower completion times for yourself and your groups, but I don't see why you wouldn't want to contribute as much as possible. A DPSing healer in a faceroll dungeon speeds up the process considerably.

[Lovemonster]

A better idea is to go SCH, summon your pet, follow the tank, and AFK. As long as the tank is getting heals you don't have to do anything right?

[Azure_dragon-]

This thread is a little silly because there should be no debate.

If you want to be a fully contributing party member, you do whatever you can to facilitate completion of your goal. When you don't need to pay full attention to healing, the focus should shift to DPS. As long as the healer manages MP correctly and understands fight mechanics, this should not be an issue. SCH have even less excuse to be idle than WHM since MP management is pretty much a non-issue with Aetherflow and constant free heals from the fairy.

This guy get's get it. To each there own I guess

[Conant]

I think this contradicts itself. A healer who only heals is not adaptable.

The point at which a player is "bad" is subjective, but refusing to DPS is simply ignoring a a substantial part of the class toolkit. It would be like a paladin who refuses to use sword oath. The argument might go - a paladin is a tank so you can't call a paladin bad for refusing to maximize their DPS while not tanking a mob.

Either way, it's an intentional decision to not give a full effort, which affects other players, and given it's a team game other people do have the right to express their concerns when the group is not doing its best.

I feel this more like telling the tank to switch between Shield Oath and Sword Oath. I do not hear people screaming at the tank to switch to increase DPS even if they can hold hate on trash mobs or most bosses.

[DeadRiser]

I'll stand around as a healer and not do anything.
If I wanted to DPS I would have queued as a DPS (SMN).

Then you aren't doing your jobs full potential hunny ^^
SE gave you spells to deal damage, and as a scholar you have
a much easier task as healing and dpsing. If you are just standing there
you definitely won't get my commendation :P