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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamma621 View Post
    It's a good thing that Swiftcast is never on cooldown.
    It's a good thing that Raise doesn't hurt a healer's MP pool just as much as a SMN.
    It's a good thing that every single party has a Bard.
    It's a good thing that every Bard is smart enough to use Mage's Ballad when it's needed.
    It's a good thing that the party doesn't wipe if a healer runs out of MP from reviving everyone, just to make sure that SMN keeps up the DPS.

    Oh wait...
    Depends.
    It doesn't. SMN has less.
    Point.
    BRD is an idiot then, no fault of any of the mages.
    If this happens you were doomed anyways. Also hyperbole. Also ignoring my "and is fine on MP" stipulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Depends.
    It doesn't. SMN has less.
    Point.
    BRD is an idiot then, no fault of any of the mages.
    If this happens you were doomed anyways. Also hyperbole. Also ignoring my "and is fine on MP" stipulation.
    SMN has less MP, but it also has cheaper skills. So yes, revives hurt a healer's MP just as much.
    Bard is an idiot for not using Ballad, but you're smart for not reviving as a SMN? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Bard's lose way more DPS using Ballad than a SMN ever would by reviving.
    No, you would not be doomed. Because the SMN would be taking the MP issue away from the healer, leaving them free to keep the party alive. If most SMNs would just get over themselves, there would be a lot less wipes.

    All I'm hearing is, "It's not my fault the other players are bad." You, as the alleged better player, should be able to help pick up the slack of the people who are struggling. Not just blame the rest of the group and act superior.

    I play WHM, SCH, and SMN as my mains, all being i90+. I've seen several situations where a SMN revive has prevented a wipe, especially when I'm the SMN reviving people. And not once has it severely hindered my DPS. So stop thinking only about topping the DPS chart, and start helping your team succeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamma621 View Post
    SMN has less MP, but it also has cheaper skills. So yes, revives hurt a healer's MP just as much.
    Bard is an idiot for not using Ballad, but you're smart for not reviving as a SMN? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Bard's lose way more DPS using Ballad than a SMN ever would by reviving.
    No, you would not be doomed. Because the SMN would be taking the MP issue away from the healer, leaving them free to keep the party alive. If most SMNs would just get over themselves, there would be a lot less wipes.

    All I'm hearing is, "It's not my fault the other players are bad." You, as the alleged better player, should be able to help pick up the slack of the people who are struggling. Not just blame the rest of the group and act superior.

    I play WHM, SCH, and SMN as my mains, all being i90+. I've seen several situations where a SMN revive has prevented a wipe, especially when I'm the SMN reviving people. And not once has it severely hindered my DPS. So stop thinking only about topping the DPS chart, and start helping your team succeed.
    This so much
    I'm not sure why some people here so hesitant to use Resurrection as Summoner.
    If you can try to save a party, why not?
    To be honest, if most of the members keep dying and you don't have any faith left in them, you most likely won't be able to clear the content with that party.
    Why bother still standing there and not 100% contributing to the team?
    You should be more concerned with your time rather than your DPS or MP.

    Topic like this honestly is like Bard whining about having to use Mage's Ballad, which doesn't make much sense.
    It comes with your job, so it's part of resources you have to contribute to your team.
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