Problems with SMN Resurrection Spell Usage

[Altimis]

By this logic, Bards should never use Mage's Ballad. If you're a SMN, and you're not reviving, you're not doing your job.

If you 're a healer, and you are not reviving, You not doing your job as healer

Nice logic indeed, I loved it

[PArcher]

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A better example would be healers DPSing. People expect it, esp of SCH...why shouldn't SMN be expected to use all their abilities?

If they aren't healers...why should they sustain their pets as well?

[Gamma621]

If you 're a healer, and you are not reviving, You not doing your job as healer

Nice logic indeed, I loved it

You must be very lucky to never have had a healer die in any of your groups. It's not like it makes more sense for a SMN to revive so the remaining healer can focus on keeping the rest of the group alive. BUT NO! MUST TOP THOSE DPS CHARTZ! BIG NUMBAHZ!

So yes. Any Summoner who can prevent a wipe, but refuses to revive because it might hurt their DPS, is not doing their job.

[Marianno]

But then the problem come when people try and put me on res duty in some parties and then people constantly die and expect me to consistently res you even after you die multiple times. I have seen people just standing in stuff because they know that they will be res if they go down. My primary job as a SMN is DPS not healing or res anyone unless both healers go down. I haven't been in a situation where both healers went down but I have when one healer went down or the tank went down. Then I would swift cast res the healer and try and heal them and then with what I have left try to res the tank. But when people consistently die and think that the SMN can simply res and has a large MP pool then that is quite frustrating and I won't be bothered with it. There are a lot of AOEs that are avoidable and a lot of unavoidable AOEs and while I know that there are some jobs with sucky MDEF, the stuff that is avoidable you should learn not to stand in colorful circles lol.

Note: I do agree that I should res people which I have no problem with. But again, the probelm is consistently res people and then being put on res duty in some parties. Though I am not trying to sound like I am complaining about anything, I just don't understand why do people feel like they don't have to avoid avoidable AOE dmg when they see healers and SMNs in the party with an active res ability. I don't mind res people once or maybe even twice, but when you consitently die then that is disturbing because then it starts to eat into my MP. Apart from which could be spent trying to physic people who the healer may have missed and really needed the healing or trying to res a tank or healer who went down. DPS should know that they should not stand in colorful circles of death lol. I have been having this problems with a lot of low lvl parties in the DF and then even sometimes in high lvl parties in the PF. Its become a nuisance honestly.

[Merryl]

True its not your job. It's something that should only be done if they ask you to. I have been yelled at for raising people as summoner.
And yes they should not be standing in the aoe lol

[Puwarh]

I don't know for the others but for me as summoner I do resurrection before the healers because there MP are harder to replenish (excepted SCH) and they will have to keep other people survive and for SMN keeping your DoTs up is also doing damage and your pet will do some damage for you too, so I will have time to resurrect people. Besides when people got resurrected by me they got topped up by the healer anyway, but if there are multiple people down in raids It will be much harder.

1. I think the 1st one that should resurrect people is SMN
2. For myself it's hard to dodge due to ping from server that may cause more than 0.5 sec. then may be people did try to dodge but cannot dodge properly due to ping from server. It's hard to tell if you ask me.

[Sen_Terrechant]

Is the fight a DPS race?

If Yes, the healer should be using rez.

If No, who cares just someone rez.

[Alistaire]

Is the fight a DPS race?

If Yes, the healer should be using rez.

If No, who cares just someone rez.

Do you really think a smn is pressed for mp or time in most dps races? Swiftcast res and get on with it. Hell, even without swiftcast as long as no dots drop that's what, 3 ruins lost?

[Altimis]

Do you really think a smn is pressed for mp or time in most dps races? Swiftcast res and get on with it. Hell, even without swiftcast as long as no dots drop that's what, 3 ruins lost?

its cost 798 MP to res, that 10 ruins lost, 800 potency loss

Its big god damn chunk wasted of MP

If not really fucked up, I don't wanna bother res them, unless Bard gonna help back it up by MP's ballard (most of time, they don't care)

[Alistaire]

its cost 798 MP to res, that 10 ruins lost, 800 potency loss

Its big god damn chunk wasted of MP

If not really fucked up, I don't wanna bother res them, unless Bard gonna help back it up by MP's ballard (most of time, they don't care)

You can't calculate it like that lol...think practically. Is there any point in a fight you'll be able to cast something as far as gcd goes but can't because of mp issues? After 1 raise? Hell, after 3 raises? If you can't manage your MP on SMN *that badly* please for the love of god never play sch or whm.