NINJA and ROGUE confirmed

[LoLo]

Your not good at this whole context thing are you.



So if the class is deemed worthless by everyone your claim is "well they can still do duty finder"

CT = outdated content worse gear than group dungeons provide

Primals = see above

Coil 1-5 = see above

static = not DF. See original statement.

What class are you talking about? I am talking about a Thief Job. Something that doesn't even exist in the game can not be confirmed to be worthless or worthwhile. Also there is this thing called creativity that devs used to make combat styles not only fun, and exciting, but useful to the group you are playing with. Just because you can not think of ideas does not mean the devs are incapable of thinking of them.

Plenty of people dislike Dragoons but they are still allowed into parties and endgame. Some would pick up a Blackmage, Monk, or Bard before a Dragoon.

[Zarzak]

What class are you talking about? I am talking about a Thief Job. Something that doesn't even exist in the game can not be confirmed to be worthless or worthwhile. Also there is this thing called creativity that devs used to make combat styles not only fun, and exciting, but useful to the group you are playing with. Just because you can not think of ideas does not mean the devs are incapable of thinking of them.

Doesn't matter what class your talking about. When you have 15 classes to fill 8 raid spots (or as will be the case in 3.0 unless they expand raid size 12 classes for 8 slots) some classes will be deemed less useful than others and be left out.

[LoLo]

Doesn't matter what class your talking about. When you have 15 classes to fill 8 raid spots (or as will be the case in 3.0 unless they expand raid size 12 classes for 8 slots) some classes will be deemed less useful than others and be left out.

Do you understand the different between a class and a job? Because I'm talking about a job and you are still saying class. lol

This game doesn't have 15 or even 12 classes that do raid content, what game are you playing? There are only 8 combat classes in the game. There will be 9 combat classes in 2.4.

Honestly if we want to be totally truthful. None of the classes in the game do raid content. But jobs in this game do raid content. 4 man dungeons are the only place I have seen people as a class doing content within a party setting. I have never seen anyone in a class for CT, Coil, and Hard/Extreme Primals.

[Zarzak]

Do you understand the different between a class and a job? Because I'm talking about a job and you are still saying class. lol

This game doesn't have 15 or even 12 classes that do raid content, what game are you playing? There are only 8 combat classes in the game. There will be 9 combat classes in 2.4.

Honestly if we want to be totally truthful. None of the classes in the game do raid content. But jobs in this game do raid content. 4 man dungeons are the only place I have seen people as a class doing content within a party setting. I have never seen anyone in a class for CT, Coil, and Hard/Extreme Primals.

If your going to deflect by pointing out semantics at least try and sound half intelligent. Sorry your not old enough to know that class the common term used to describe the player's character in MMOs and most RPG games in general for... I guess since tabletop gaming.

1. War
2. Pal
3. Whm
4. Sch
5. Smn
6. Blm
7. Drg
8. Mnk
9. Brd
10. Nin
11. 3.0 tank
12. 3.0 healer


Now want to try and actually respond to the statement you claim is wrong? Come on you can do it.

[Exstal]

If your going to deflect by pointing out semantics at least try and sound half intelligent. Sorry your not old enough to know that class the common term used to describe the player's character in MMOs and most RPG games in general for... I guess since tabletop gaming.

1. War
2. Pal
3. Whm
4. Sch
5. Smn
6. Blm
7. Drg
8. Mnk
9. Brd
10. Nin
11. 3.0 tank
12. 3.0 healer


Now want to try and actually respond to the statement you claim is wrong? Come on you can do it.

He's referrring to "classes in FFXIV"

1. MRD
2. GLA
3. PUG
4. LNC
5. ARC
6. ACN
7. THM
8. CNJ

However, since everyone else calls everything in every other game a class, it's semantically wrong to call them classes where when it means something different. So if you don't use the word "job" then he has no idea what you're trying to say. Also, don't quote me so he can't see what I type. That being said I found this quote funny;

I have never seen anyone in a class for CT, Coil, and Hard/Extreme Primals.

because this video comes to mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxMxLb3qki0


He also has a fundamental misunderstanding of what a class is supposed to be. Naoki said classes were meant for solo play so you can have access to all the cross class skills, with jobs for party play. So maybe he'll actually make this somewhat of a reality with Rogue / Ninja maybe having different applications in solo and party play. But I doubt it because if it's strong solo, it's likely to be just as strong in party (if not stronger).

Second reminder, don't quote me. Just reply with "@Exstal"

[LoLo]

If your going to deflect by pointing out semantics at least try and sound half intelligent. Sorry your not old enough to know that class the common term used to describe the player's character in MMOs and most RPG games in general for... I guess since tabletop gaming.

1. War
2. Pal
3. Whm
4. Sch
5. Smn
6. Blm
7. Drg
8. Mnk
9. Brd
10. Nin
11. 3.0 tank
12. 3.0 healer


Now want to try and actually respond to the statement you claim is wrong? Come on you can do it.

Nothing you said is correct. In THIS game there are classes and jobs. NONE of what you listed is considered a job and I'm questing you intelligence.

[Viridiana]

Nothing you said is correct. In THIS game there are classes and jobs. NONE of what you listed is considered a job and I'm questing you intelligence.

Pretty much everything he said was correct. Class is the generic term used in most games to describe what this game calls jobs. You can keep trying to ignore his point because he's using the generic term instead of the specific term used in this game, but that doesn't make you right. It just makes you look dishonest. And your entire last sentence is just silly. Everything he listed is a job, and yet you decide to "quest him intelligence." I'd be curious to see what kind of quest gives someone else intelligence. >_>

Note: this post is pretty much directed to on-lookers. As far as I know, LoLo still has me ignored.

[Exstal]

As far as I know, LoLo still has me ignored.

Anyone that makes him look silly has this treatment.