Relic Questline about 30% too much IMHO

[Giantbane]

I personally think the atma part of the quest line should just be completely removed because to my knowledge it doesn't even upgrade your weapon. The stats stay exactly as are for zenith. It's just a prerequisite for animus which is now completely pointless since it can now be upgraded to novus.

Initially when I heard about atma coming from fates, I assumed it would have been atmas dropping from specific big fates. Like atma of the crab dropping from the Cancer fight or go, go, gogimera dropping the ram or something like that. Can't really solo it, but it seems more appropriate than what we currently have.

[Parz3val]

Initially when I heard about atma coming from fates, I assumed it would have been atmas dropping from specific big fates. Like atma of the crab dropping from the Cancer fight or go, go, gogimera dropping the ram or something like that. Can't really solo it, but it seems more appropriate than what we currently have.

That would've been neat

[Yukiko]

[Nabian]

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This comic made my day haha! I agree the ATMA portion of the quest could have been implemented a bit better (i'm not a huge fan of RNG based grinds- but then again we are playing an MMO). But for the most part I've enjoyed the rest of the quest (no I didn't enjoy brayflox SR but they weren't THAT bad).

Currently sitting at 16/75 for my novus. I think the biggest thing people forget is that the relic weapon is only 1 option. I have not intentions of ever completing a second relic (mostly because I have crap luck and don't want to spend another 50-100+ hours farming fates). Currently my offspec is 2 tokens away from getting my i100 soldiery weapon. Unless you're completing coil there is really no 'need' for an i100 weapon. The i95 weapons from Levi are more than enough to get you through all the content in the game if you are a skilled player. If you haven't beaten Titan EX yet (no worries their nerfing the requirements in the next patch) then your primal weapons (or zenith relic) is more than sufficient for all contents you are currently trying to beat.

I'm tired of the entitled everybody wins mentality people have lately. You see it starting as early as youth sports where kids now get a "trophy for participation". I say...to hell with that. There are winners and losers in everything we do. Get used to it.

[Kona4me]

I've stopped doing animus weapon b/c its just stupid to do 9 books and each book will cost 1500myth and each book will ask you to do so many things even doing low lvl dungeons >w< . also, its boring to do brayflox(hard) which is the fastest way to finish it :\ so i'm not sure if i can resub in few days if this boring grind will continue with 2.3

[Parz3val]

Fact: Relic Questline is a dealbreaker for many, causing plenty of people a lack of enjoyment, aggravation, lack of motivation, lost interest, or to unsub entirely.

"You don't have to do it, you know!", yes we know, but there are many who love the idea of having epic, exclusive, & long-standing weaponry; others who are completionists; others who like grinds for the most part; others who appreciate long-term goals despite disliking aspects of them; and so on...

Personally, I think obtaining a weapon of legend in an MMO where your weapon is your power should be exciting, and the fact is: it simply isn't exciting for so many people, and that's sad to me.


So regardless of people's reasons for completing the Relic Questline, I urge SE to strongly take into account how vastly unenjoyable it is for a massive portion of its population & alter or reevaluate the processes somehow.

Not that they 'have' to cater to us, but my impression is games are there to enjoy & have fun.


Above all: perhaps if there were more exciting open-world content for groups or if FATE's were made more interesting as a whole or better myth-grind alternatives, that would be one thing...

But there is not, so this' a plea to SE to look inwardly with regards to this system & try to infuse more 'fun' into it as a whole.

[Vladislav]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop requesting them to nerf evertything. I really enjoy the fact that not everyone will have their relic upgraded. I think it's part of what makes the weapon unique. If your not willing to put in the time/effort to upgrade the weapon you don't deserve it.

As time comes , everything will be nerfed & handed as get outdated anyways . So don't worry ;P

[RakaMaimhov]

With myth amounts being increased across the board with 2.3, the myth requirements don't seem quite so unreasonable IMO. As for fewer atma required, that goes against the lore of the ZODIAC BRAVES seeing as how the zodiac in this game also has 12 signs like ours irl. So you can't really go changing that. Increase the drop rate, maybe.

I plan on taking 3 relics through to Novus. I understand not everyone has the time/inclination to do this. Lucky for you there are other weapon options. They DO want players to reconcile themselves with maybe only getting 1 or 2 (or 3) maxed relics. They're supposed to be speshul.

[Toodles]

I agree, if anything it's time to ease up on Atma.

[Barboron]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop requesting them to nerf evertything. I really enjoy the fact that not everyone will have their relic upgraded. I think it's part of what makes the weapon unique. If your not willing to put in the time/effort to upgrade the weapon you don't deserve it.

This, I came into General and just seen OP has several posts just complaining about content and "suggesting" it be scaled down or nerfed in some sense. Nobody is forcing anyone to play any content. Don't enjoy it? Try some of the other content.
You really want the weapon? Why ruin the work and achievement everyone else put in? Also, 50 alexandrites just wouldn't work for 75 stats.
Atma drop rate is fine, it seems only very few people complain about it compared to the amount of relic weapons I see gone to Atma and beyond.

What I do agree with is the pre-purchase of books though. Changing costs? Not so much, wouldn't argue with it but I think it's fine as is.