Relic Questline about 30% too much IMHO

[Bloopan]

Actually Im just waiting for 2.3 patch to see if there would be any changes on the Relic quest timeline as well

[Divine-Fist]

I agree. I'm on the atma part now and it's driving me nuts already. I've been at it for a week and I only have 2 atmas so far. The developers need to realize that a lot of us have jobs, families, and are college students so we can't spend hours just sitting on our butts ignoring our real life responsibilities all for a chance...A CHANCE...at maybe getting one atma if we're lucky. I read that Yoshi P even said he doesn't like that aspect of the game so I really hope it gets improved. With all the upgrades and a new class coming soon it really feels overwhelming. This is one aspect of the game that can possibly make me quit. I love this game so much but if it just gets more and more grindy I won't be left with any choice but to quit because as much as I love games, my life and my child have to come first.

[Parz3val]

I think the Atma portion should've been nerfed at the Novus launch.

With the workload as it is, being two portions behind is insane.

This way too, it'll make for earning a set for your subclass more tolerable & provide fair compensation/incentive for those who already have their first Novus.

Nerfing two stages back each cycle sounds about right as well.

[LunarEmerald]

I think the Atma portion should've been nerfed at the Novus launch.

With the workload as it is, being two portions behind is insane.

This way too, it'll make for earning a set for your subclass more tolerable & provide fair compensation/incentive for those who already have their first Novus.

Nerfing two stages back each cycle sounds about right as well.

Novus is a reward for those that worked hard to achieve their animus. Animus was only part of the reward, being able to upgrade it further is the other part.

It's much too soon to make it easier for people to catch up. Otherwise it diminishes the reward. I

[Divine-Fist]

Novus is a reward for those that worked hard to achieve their animus. Animus was only part of the reward, being able to upgrade it further is the other part.

It's much too soon to make it easier for people to catch up. Otherwise it diminishes the reward. I

Are you considering players with multiple level 50 jobs when ya say that? Think about it. Part of what really sells this game to people is versatility. If you're forming a party with people in your FC and they need you to be a tank, healer, or dps the option is there and a whole lot of players use that option. So that's just something to think about. Maybe for one lvl 50 job it doesn't seem all that bad but what about more than one or all? Personally it doesn't sound appealing at all to me. Games are supposed to be fun and yes challenging too but it seems like the difference between challenge and repetitive grinding has been very blurred.

[TomTom1968]

Make the ATMA hunt so that you need it ONCE as a prerequisite and then you can upgrade all your Relicts.

Make the rare FATES go away from the Novus books and replace them with any FATE or a certain number of FATES

Then I would maybe go for a 2nd one. Nothing against time consuming tasks. But fighting against RNG and waiting for hours just isn't a funny way to spend my sparetime.

[Algin]

Nah, it's fine as it is. According to achievment it took me about 620 fates to get 12 Atmas, then do the 9 books will take me like 3 weeks. At least I'll have something to do. I rather work on my relic, then just stand in Mor Dhona and watch /shout.

[Appleh4x]

Atma grind was brutal to me. I spent 43 hours trying to get the Atma of the Water Bearer before I gave up on the questline. I would rather do second coil every hour of the week with terrible groups than farm atmas.

[Parz3val]

Novus is a reward for those that worked hard to achieve their animus. Animus was only part of the reward, being able to upgrade it further is the other part.

This makes no sense... the entire Relic Chain is meant to continually expand & the weapon to grow in ilvl throughout the game's life-cycle.

Novus isn't like a consolation prize with how insane the materia demand is. Sure, you can try to SB all those Grade IV's yourself, but you're still praying to the RNG gods as usual.

Or you can also hope to the RNG gods that the melds go through... just the fact the melds can fail period, that's ludicrous to me.

Nobody likes having a 500k value material go *POOF* for good with a 96% chance of success.

[Divine-Fist]

I personally think the atma part of the quest line should just be completely removed because to my knowledge it doesn't even upgrade your weapon. The stats stay exactly as are for zenith. It's just a prerequisite for animus which is now completely pointless since it can now be upgraded to novus.