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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    I know I haven't done either of the two in over 4 months. Though I do like Praetorium for the music and such.
    And this is exactly why the first-timers would be served worse than with the current situation:

    - In the current situation, you get a sub-optimal experience, but you can complete the dungeon, see the bosses and the videos, but most often not in the same run.
    - In the second scenario, players will wait for extreme long periods just to get into the dungeons. When Yoshi decided to give a (quite generous) bonus of 100 myths for Castrum, he probably had that in mind. It is similar to the Atma quest - almost everybody HATES it, but imaging the situation if it was not for it.

    I appreciate your intention to help first-timers, but I think you seriously over-estimate the number of "good smaritans" on an average server.
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    Last edited by stupiddog; 06-19-2014 at 12:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stupiddog View Post
    I appreciate your intention to help first-timers, but I think you seriously over-estimate the number of "good smaritans" on an average server.
    Uh, no I don't. I know the majority of people want to speed run it and don't care about people wanting to watch cutscenes. That doesn't make them RIGHT however, which has been my whole point. It also means that these people don't have a right to try and ruin someone's first time through because they want to speed run.

    You keep looking at it as a problem with the dungeons and cutscenes themselves. No, it's a problem with the player base. I'm not offering a fix, because you can't change some of these people. That still doesn't make them right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    No, it's a problem with the player base.
    We have no dispute here.

    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    I'm not offering a fix, because you can't change some of these people. That still doesn't make them right.
    That is correct, too. But what good is it to be ethically correct when it does not fix the problem? I am neither a sinner nor a saint, I am looking for a pragmatic solution that satisfies both "sides" of the argument. However, I have yet to conceive something better than the "bad compromise" I have described.
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