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  1. #1
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    Buffo_The_Clown's Avatar
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    Buffo Zaruud
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    Story falls apart at the end...

    This post MAY contain some very light spoilers about the pace of the story line.

    I wanted to know if I was the only player who felt this way about this issue.

    Following the Story quest line was pretty decent. Whether it was good, bad, fun, boring, tedious, tragic is not the point of my grievances with the Story quest line.

    My issue comes with the last few Quests in the main story line, where you have to take part in pick up groups to accomplish.

    So, up until level 50 I am able to enjoy the story at my own pace. Then you get to the climax if the writing, the story, and BAM, you cannot enjoy it and are forced to stop all the cut scenes.
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    You are trying to beat the main baddy of the story and you get to enjoy nothing. If you watch a cut scene people tell you to hurry or they just proceed without you, actually leaving me out of a boss fight because of me watching a cut scene. After running the two dungeons as dailies myself, I see how first timers are left behind and sometimes yelled at for "wasting speed runner's time".

    I enjoy cut scenes. Maybe I am the minority in this, but after spending countless hours ramping up the man badguys, only to have them virtually ignored at the end did piss me off a bit.

    For me, it's like watching a movie or reading a book, and getting to the last 20 minutes or 20 pages, only to have a stranger walk up to me and hit fast forward or flip the pages for me to the end, skipping the climax entirely.

    Is it possible to make the last two story dungeons not involved in daily grinds somehow? Does anyone actually care enough about this that this is even an issue?
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    Lughna Ravensworn
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    Go to the inn and watch them. You can still watch it all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyreflye View Post
    You shouldn't have to watch story cutscenes after the climax has happened. That is horribly un-immersive.

    It's like finishing Final Fantasy X without the end cutscenes, then watching them 2 hours after the end credits. It completely ruins the experience.
    (If you didn't like FFX, insert any game that had a terrific story instead)
    The op sounds like they didn't know that. There is no non-rude option here. Making a new player skip them is rude and it's also equally rude to make 3 people wait because 1 person wants to watch it. Since we have to deal with no non-rude options it's a good idea to make sure people know about the inn option. The mistake is on SE's part cutscenes in group content should never have been more than 20 to 30 secs in length tops.
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    Last edited by Kerberon; 06-18-2014 at 09:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberon View Post
    Go to the inn and watch them. You can still watch it all.
    You shouldn't have to watch story cutscenes after the climax has happened. That is horribly un-immersive.

    It's like finishing Final Fantasy X without the end cutscenes, then watching them 2 hours after the end credits. It completely ruins the experience.
    (If you didn't like FFX, insert any game that you thought had a terrific story instead)
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    Last edited by Pyreflye; 06-18-2014 at 09:32 PM.

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    You can always watch the cutscenes again and again in the Inn room at any of the three major cities.
    Putting so many cutscenes in the middle of dungeon where some people want to watch and some other not (because many already saw and they happen to be in roulette) was a game design flaw from SE. I can accept 1 cutscene in the beginning and 1 at the end but so many in the middle it's boring. No matter if you enjoy the cutscenes or not putting so many in the middle of the run simply cuts the action which is not really nice.
    Anyway that problem solved when they put a new option in the menu to automatically skip the cutscenes which you already saw once.
    Remember this is an MMO not a single player offline rpg.
    This topic has been discussed too many times in the forums.
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    This is the result of very bad design from SE. It is a Catch-22. For CM and Prae, I am always willing to wait for first timers to watch cut scenes but few others there from dailies are. And while the gogogo set can be obnoxious it is beyond annoying how much time -- well over a half hour -- all those scenes take in those two instances.,
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    There are different Play style conditions you can set with Party finder's Recruit members function. One of those play style conditions is "Story-focused, no cutscene skipping".
    I've seen this option being used many times for both last main scenario dungeons. It takes a while, but party usually ends filling up.

    So yeah, the possibility to do main scenario quests without skipping CSs does exist, it is in the game. However, it may take long time for a party to fill up.

    Also, this issue existed since the release of game, long before main scenario roulette was introduced.
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    Tanoxis Rahz
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    Ultros
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    Lucky for me, I started the game when the game launched, so when I did the story, almost everyone was watching cutscenes and waiting for everyone. Sadly right now, there are too many players that don't care about others sadly... With that said, I would alway say at the start of every group story instance that I will watch all cutscenes at my own pace, as s disclaimer as that I want to enjoy it on thr spot that is suppose to go. I would prefer to skip a fight than to skip a cutscene. I would then after finishing the story, I would re-do the instance and the enjoy the fight.
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    Ecks Grimoirath
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    Back when I first did this I watched the cutscenes and didn't give a crap if people wanted me to skip them or not. I wasn't about to shortchange myself the experience, personally.

    These days though, most people have already beaten things like CM and Praetorium numerous times, and honestly, is that one person really going to make a huge difference in those boss fights? No. I don't care if they enjoy the cutscenes while I do the work. Hell I love killing Prae bosses.
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    Last edited by Ecks007; 06-19-2014 at 01:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberon View Post
    The mistake is on SE's part cutscenes in group content should never have been more than 20 to 30 secs in length tops.
    This is my point. There shouldn't be any lengthy story anything that requires 8 strangers to take part in.

    As for the Inn, I know about that, but that is meta. That isn't part of the story. You should be able to do the story line alone and without strangers forcing their speed running rudeness onto you, especially since you already did, what, 100+ story quests alone, but for the end game you need to share your story experience with 7 other strangers that took no part in your story beforehand?

    Perhaps have two options. When you first do the end game story quests you are matched up with fellow newbies. Afterwards, you are matched up with people who already did it. Seems like a decent alternative to the rush we have now.
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