Patch 1.18 release date announced! July 21

[Colino]

I disagree with you, at least as far as the simplification goes. If video gaming was as easy as you stated, then why are we still waiting for games like Diablo III? Why did it take so long to push out Duke Nukem Forever? Obviously, developing games is not a quick process and to expect quick results seems like a contradiction.

I never said making games is quick and easy. I just said errors don't happen because of a typo or a wrong line of code anymore. That's all I said.

It's not simple if SE has given Yoshi all the resources he is going to get. It's hard to justify spending more money developing a failed game on a gamble that they can still save it. Yoshi's team has all the support they are going to get from the overall company.

Agreed. The game has lost them a lot of money, it's not easy for a company to convince the shareholders to keep waiting and putting their money into a project that has already lost them plenty. Let's just hope they're good at convincing is all I can say. ^^

[SuzakuCMX]

I never said making games is quick and easy. I just said errors don't happen because of a typo or a wrong line of code anymore. That's all I said.

>_> Bull crap.

[CrystalWeapon]

I never said making games is quick and easy. I just said errors don't happen because of a typo or a wrong line of code anymore. That's all I said.

If you truely believe that the program checker in your complier will prevent your code from having any errors whatsoever then I can without a doubt say that you have absolutely no experience in programming. A simple > in place of a < could have dire consequences in coding and would not be caught by your compiler. It can only check for syntax not logic. The fact that you place so low of an emphasis on the value of always testing your throughly after completion leads me to believe you've never done work on anything bigger than a personal side project or some little mom and pop company. It might not always cause a crash but an error in logic could cause major complications in your code that may not be imediately evident.

I've programmed in Visual basic, C++, Java, Javascript, SQL, Python, Actionscript, xHtml, Php, and Css over the years. I think you're talking out your ass with your programming knowledge.

[Colino]

If you truely believe that the program checker in your complier will prevent your code from having any errors whatsoever then I can without a doubt say that you have absolutely no experience in programming.

I didn't say it will prevent any errors whatsoever. I said it solves typos in most cases, which you know to be true.

There's no unsolvable auto-programming compiler that types shit by himself, although that would be really awesome. I also never said testing is useless, I said that if their testing is such a problem they might want to take a look at it. And I said it several times, but people like to grossly exaggerate what someone else says in order to attack them.

On a side note, SQL, xHTML, PHP and CSS are not programming languages, so you can't really "program" in them. But I'm sure that's just a typo.

[Capita]

I didn't say it will prevent any errors whatsoever. I said it solves typos in most cases, which you know to be true.

There's no unsolvable auto-programming compiler that types shit by himself, although that would be really awesome. I also never said testing is useless, I said that if their testing is such a problem they might want to take a look at it. And I said it several times, but people like to grossly exaggerate what someone else says in order to attack them.

No, I'm pretty sure you were talking up your great ability to program and easily find errors, implying you were somehow better than SE's programmers, until he called you out on it.

[SuzakuCMX]

I didn't say it will prevent any errors whatsoever. I said it solves typos in most cases, which you know to be true.

There's no unsolvable auto-programming compiler that types shit by himself, although that would be really awesome. I also never said testing is useless, I said that if their testing is such a problem they might want to take a look at it. And I said it several times, but people like to grossly exaggerate what someone else says in order to attack them.

On a side note, SQL, xHTML, PHP and CSS are not programming languages, so you can't really "program" in them. But I'm sure that's just a typo.

To take your words exactly:

errors don't happen because of a typo or a wrong line of code anymore

Stop saying you said things you didn't say.

[Colino]

No, I'm pretty sure you were talking up your great ability to program and easily find errors, implying you were somehow better than SE's programmers, until he called you out on it.

No I wasn't, but please keep exaggerating what I said because you like to antagonize just for the sake of it.

Stop saying you said things you didn't say.

That is what I said, try any modern compiler and type a function incorrectly, it will tell you that it was typed incorrectly most of the time.

[SuzakuCMX]

it will tell you that it was typed incorrectly most of the time.

errors don't happen because of a typo or a wrong line of code anymore

1st: MOST of the time
2nd: NONE of the time

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[Capita]

I didn't say it will prevent any errors whatsoever. I said it solves typos in most cases, which you know to be true.

Hmm...

Maybe in the 80's. Any text editor for coding nowadays has either auto-correct options or an error finder that tracks down exactly which line of code was written incorrectly.

If there's a problem with your software nowadays it's most likely an entire section of wrong code or just bad design.

Yeah, Ok.

I also never said testing is useless, I said that if their testing is such a problem they might want to take a look at it. And I said it several times, but people like to grossly exaggerate what someone else says in order to attack them.

Orly?

What I actually MEANT was that fine tuning is a pointless reason because we know very well that the people doing fine tuning will be us once the game is out. Regardless of how much testing they do it won't be bugless, we know that much.

Right.

[Colino]

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How does me saying it won't be bugless = testing is useless?

No please tell me because I really don't understand why you keep insisting on this.

1st: MOST of the time
2nd: NONE of the time

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Jee grasping at straws sure is fun. I apologise for the fallacy in that one sentence I typed, are you happy? Can we talk about the patch/letter now?