Easy Mode Coil Proposal

[Hali]

Then make one. This is the biggest problem I see with this argument. "There's little to no learning PF parties" Because you, and others who want to learn, won't make them. It's just expected for them to be there.

This, a thousand times over.

[Monoclonal]

Another version of coil would be too redundant considering they will add Brutal coil soon.

They'd better create another raid content beside super casual CT and Coil, make difficulty level somewhere between these two and offer slightly better than CT and worse than coil rewards.

For coil lore fans that didn't do SCoB , you will soon get easy mode coil after the next tier coming out. Since SCoB are quite heavy in mechanics every turn, in 2.4 there would be more than just echo buff, mechanics nerf surely.

[stupiddog]

I believe this system would help to train better than making the boss "slower" or "weaker" because otherwise you'd be trained to react to the slow versions first which may actually make it harder to learn the faster versions.

I accept that it worked for you personally, but for me, it just would not. My main problem (and the reason I could not clear T5 so far) is that everything happens just way too fast for me. Could be because I am a bit older than most players (yes, at age 34, your reflexes DO get worse. Not extremely, but in things like coil, it shows. Look forward to it, today's elitists ), it happened to me a lot that I had to look down at my crossbar b/c I needed to see my HP and the current CD times of my commands, but when I looked up back again, I was dead. The problem is that I cannot learn from this because I fail to see why exactly I screwed up. I would love to see some kind of "rewind and replay" function, but currently, it just isn't there.

Compared to that, I prepared for the previous fights (like Garuda and Titan HM) by watching videos, pausing once in a while, taking my time to understand what is going on, and then resuming the vid. Maybe I am isolated case, but I am curious if other players feel the same way.

[wicked-one]

that is not easy mode and you can't do it with bad players. Not to mention can make T5 harder for some people, divebombs going when conflag is up is a prime example. What I am proposing is the mechanics to be a lot more forgiving not a dmg and heal buff with same said unforgiving mechanics.

You want to debuff the mechanics so they don´t instantly kill you?

So breaking news is, you survive a Divebomb if you get hit and have enough HP... Conflags won´t kill you as likely, as you deal out more damage and bring them down faster... fyou need no VIT Gear to survive fireballs, due to increased HP...

additional to echo, you buy i100 Gear, thus giving you a even more boost (which should be quite full by now)

ECHO adresses (nearly) all of your "don´t kill me instant" issues,... ECHO is not easy mode, it´s "please don´t touch me" mode... *

we did weeks over weeks training this turns, with lesser gear, and without echo... so by now this should be a walk in the park - with or without echo...

you don´t train for climbing a mountain by running in the plains...

what this is: you get content on the silver plate, and you aksing for the golden one ...

* im not sure but i guess a challenge would be doing T1-5 in Job Gear, and im pretty sure, with 15% ... it´s doable...

[Nel_Celestine]

Anyways back on topic and to make it short..people will never learn if barely anyone is willing to teach them..that or if the person learning is stubborn.

Sadly, most people consider the idea of "Go look it up on youtube." to be an acceptable teaching method, even for second coil.

[ispano]

I accept that it worked for you personally, but for me, it just would not. My main problem (and the reason I could not clear T5 so far) is that everything happens just way too fast for me. Could be because I am a bit older than most players (yes, at age 34, your reflexes DO get worse. Not extremely, but in things like coil, it shows. Look forward to it, today's elitists ), it happened to me a lot that I had to look down at my crossbar b/c I needed to see my HP and the current CD times of my commands, but when I looked up back again, I was dead. The problem is that I cannot learn from this because I fail to see why exactly I screwed up. I would love to see some kind of "rewind and replay" function, but currently, it just isn't there.

Compared to that, I prepared for the previous fights (like Garuda and Titan HM) by watching videos, pausing once in a while, taking my time to understand what is going on, and then resuming the vid. Maybe I am isolated case, but I am curious if other players feel the same way.

I'm 32 and have no reflex issues at all.

[Rosy]

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You're a mere babe but yes reflexes do slow down as you get older...although at the moment I'm not having a problem dodging stuff. Back to OP, I prefer the later suggestion of allowing you to start where you completed...so if you do conflags you go onto divebombs and if you wipe to those, you start again at divebombs rather than keep doing the same old stuff over and over again. But overall an "easy" mode to learn the fight, however it's done would be more than welcome. No loot...no "progression", but a true learning instance. Videos are all well and good, but you really only learn something by doing it.

Regarding learning groups, I was with two different ones of those last night, and truly....they were appalling, with people going afk in the middle of the fight!! One person NEVER moving when he had fireball on him, and numerous, after half an hour of wiping still not getting that you run under Twin with conflag.

The first group actually learnt quite a bit, and went away satisfied that they had progressed a bit...the second group, I just despaired, and no we never even got to Dreadknights.

Then I thought, ok let's go in an "experienced" group...sent the guy a tell that I'd only done to dreadknights and he said it was ok to join. Started off brilliantly (one tank method) and looked like the group was at long last one where I could get her down. Nope....kept wiping on the snake gathering part as the tank kept dying. So there...more frustration, but I guess I'll get it down one day.

[Iriadysa]

I accept that it worked for you personally, but for me, it just would not. My main problem (and the reason I could not clear T5 so far) is that everything happens just way too fast for me. Could be because I am a bit older than most players (yes, at age 34, your reflexes DO get worse. Not extremely, but in things like coil, it shows. Look forward to it, today's elitists ), it happened to me a lot that I had to look down at my crossbar b/c I needed to see my HP and the current CD times of my commands, but when I looked up back again, I was dead. The problem is that I cannot learn from this because I fail to see why exactly I screwed up. I would love to see some kind of "rewind and replay" function, but currently, it just isn't there.

Compared to that, I prepared for the previous fights (like Garuda and Titan HM) by watching videos, pausing once in a while, taking my time to understand what is going on, and then resuming the vid. Maybe I am isolated case, but I am curious if other players feel the same way.

I'm actually interested in your answer, so I'll follow up: wouldn't the ability to jump right into the phase that is giving you trouble to repeat it over and over without having to go through the tedious initial stages serve you better than learning a slow motion version first and then progressively making it harder?

As humans we learn a lot from trial and error, so being able to retry as fast as possible is key to enhance our learning ability.

Say, let's imagine your group is having a hard time deal with the last phase on Titan. Wouldn't it be really helpful to be able to jump right into that phase and repeat it over and over till you have it mastered?

They could add it as a Gold Saucer attraction as an arcade machine and call it Virtual Fantasy XIV ^___^

[wicked-one]

I'm 32 and have no reflex issues at all.

Researchers stated the zenith of a video gamer is at Age of 24, after that, reaction degrades, no matter what ^^

[ispano]

Researchers stated the zenith of a video gamer is at Age of 24, after that, reaction degrades, no matter what ^^

Read what I said again. I said I have no reflex issues. I never said anything about them not degrading. I'm saying I don't have issues reacting to everything in the game currently.