Easy Mode Coil Proposal

[Yurihyuga]

This is clearly up for discussion and by no means a must.

1. This would simply be same boss and same mechanics but just less damaging, instant kill mechanics would still be there BUT won't actually kill you but be damaging and recoverable. So won't be a roll over but definitely easier.

2. Not available via the duty finder so you still have to create a group.

3. This would be extremely good practice for groups of people who might want to step up to the actual hard mode coil. Groups can learn the same mechanics and strive for no mistake runs before trying hard mode coil.

4. Loot can be discussed - I mean we will have CT and soldiery gear so another route for just ilvl 100 gear wouldn't be game breaking but if people want can also just make it no gear reward.

5. Allows people to experience the lore of the allagan with no massive brick walls and with no gear/ilvl 100 gear no one is stepping on peoples toes.

6. If there is loot can make it once a week lot but don't lock out turns in the same way as hard mode coil as this can be used as practice.

This might be bashed but no harm in a proposal even if it never happens.

further edit on points been made in thread and points that were not made clear for some people

Remember this is not a nerf, this is a separate mode with no gear rewards. If you want the rewards have to do coil in its current form.

I liked the idea on being able to restart a fight in certain phases but on a development point of view this will probably not be possible along with making things in slow motion.

This would be an official training mode that allows like minded people to get together to learn a fight - this might actually help the whole be experienced problem we have with the community. If you can clear the practice without making mistakes you can easily join an experienced party since the mechanics are the same.

Will keep updating thread as I see more ideas come across.

[Exstal]

Just make it drop Dark Light gear

[Moqi]

Still waiting on the increased Echo to try T5 lol. I'm not really interested in the loot or the fights (so far they've been pretty boring), so I like this idea. I'm just playing it for the story.

[Miitan]

We already have 'Easy Mode' Coil in the form of 15% echo though...

[Yurihyuga]

We already have 'Easy Mode' Coil in the form of 15% echo though...

that is not easy mode and you can't do it with bad players. Not to mention can make T5 harder for some people, divebombs going when conflag is up is a prime example. What I am proposing is the mechanics to be a lot more forgiving not a dmg and heal buff with same said unforgiving mechanics.

Easy mode coil if it did happen should not have echo as the mechanics should be smooth to learn them properly.

[Hali]

Coil isn't too hard though.
If you put in the practice, you can learn the fights in a short amount of time. The mechanics of each fight are not difficult to understand, and countering them requires slight focus at most. Hitting enrage shouldn't be a problem either, considering that a lot of people who don't run BcoB2 are now hitting i100 on their main classes.

I'm not saying this to try put anyone down. I just wish more people would properly give the fights a try before saying, "It's too hard."

[stupiddog]

Easy mode coil if it did happen should not have echo as the mechanics should be smooth to learn them properly.

I would propose a "training mode", which gives no loot at all and no T5 clear flag, no enrage timer, but works like this:

- 1st stage: 50% slowdown (this will be ridiculously easy, but will allow really everyone to study the mechanics and learn to dodge properly), if you clear that, you get clearance for
- 2nd stage: 40% slowdown (same as above), if you clear that...
- 3rd stage: 30% slowdown, if you clear that...
- 4th stage: 20% slowdown, if you clear that...
- 5th stage: 10% slowdown

[Seoulstar]

Coil isn't too hard though.
If you put in the practice, you can learn the fights in a short amount of time. The mechanics of each fight are not difficult to understand, and countering them requires slight focus at most. Hitting enrage shouldn't be a problem either, considering that a lot of people who don't run BcoB2 are now hitting i100 on their main classes.

I'm not saying this to try put anyone down. I just wish more people would properly give the fights a try before saying, "It's too hard."

Learning the mechanics in coil is actually harder than you think. Party finder barely has any learning parties, I found one "learning" party for T5 and I quote learning because it said basically only people ilvl90 can join. Personally, I think that's illogical since the mininmun requirement for it is 82. Anyways back on topic and to make it short..people will never learn if barely anyone is willing to teach them..that or if the person learning is stubborn.

[Iriadysa]

I would propose a "training mode", which gives no loot at all and no T5 clear flag, no enrage timer, but works like this:

- 1st stage: 90% slowdown (this will be ridiculously easy, but will allow really everyone to study the mechanics and learn to dodge properly), if you clear that, you get clearance for
- 2nd stage: 70% slowdown (same as above), if you clear that...
- 3rd stage: 50% slowdown, if you clear that...
- 4th stage: 30% slowdown, if you clear that...
- 5th stage: 10% slowdown

Following the idea of training mode, a similar concept is to make a staged fight with check points and no loot. Basically, you get to play the real fight but every time you achieve a marker point and wipe you can return to that marker point. This could be done via some simple menu which would allow you to choose what stage the boss starts at (which would also lower its health to that stage, if applicable). As you unlock stages you can choose to keep pushing to unlock them or repeat a previous stage in case you wish to master it even if you have already passed it (perhaps you passed it with most of your people dead).

I believe this system would help to train better than making the boss "slower" or "weaker" because otherwise you'd be trained to react to the slow versions first which may actually make it harder to learn the faster versions.

I say this from personal experience on other games where "Normal mode" and "Hard mode" had different mechanics in terms of speed and damage and where, really, NM would not truly help with training for HM

[ispano]

Learning the mechanics in coil is actually harder than you think. Party finder barely has any learning parties, I found one "learning" party for T5 and I quote learning because it said basically only people ilvl90 can join. Personally, I think that's illogical since the mininmun requirement for it is 82. Anyways back on topic and to make it short..people will never learn if barely anyone is willing to teach them..that or if the person learning is stubborn.

Then make one. This is the biggest problem I see with this argument. "There's little to no learning PF parties" Because you, and others who want to learn, won't make them. It's just expected for them to be there.