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    Amberion's Avatar
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    Amberion Eurelt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diavolo View Post
    Well, the devs are damned if they do and damned if they don't. If they had full blown primals, people would bitch that they weren't sticking to lore and that they are totally messing up the whole notion that a tonne of crystals and lives are needed to summon them. And since they decided to go the lore-friendly route, now people bitch that they aren't impressive enough (despite the fact that you're only summoning the ESSENCE of the primal, not the primal itself). There really is no way for them to win.
    Shouldn't they have thought of that when they where writing the story? Anyone that has any knowledge of FF series would know that Chocobos and the summons/summoner has become the key features people know of when you ask them about the Final Fantasy Series.

    Or heck, the players got special "powah" against primals, they could have easily made a way for summoners to summon a de-powered Primal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    Or heck, the players got special "powah" against primals, they could have easily made a way for summoners to summon a de-powered Primal.
    Like I said earlier, it's the fans fault. FFXIV was hated so much that they literally had to do everything to make ARR a Final Fantasy game in their eyes. That included putting Summoner in for launch.

    If Summoner was actually summoning a depowered Primal, then that would have had to rush the story forward so much, the whole "Primals are evil that taint the very land they walk on" plot that has been going for all this time would basically have to be rushed to explain why Summoner can summon them anyway. Taking a portion of the Aether you were exposed to fighting the Primal, and melding that into your own pet Egi allows them to explain Summoner and not rush the plot, while still giving fans Summoner at launch. Currently the whole plot is building up to our Free Companies actually being able to summon Primals fully. Would I have liked that at launch? Hell yes I would, but it would have made the plot even more convoluted than it already is, there would simply have been far too much stuff going on and have made very little sense. What hasn't even been explained yet would have to be in the game by Lv30... Even if you just put it there, most of the Lv31+ plot would just fall apart at that point.

    The only issue is how the Egis look, but I've hated how some summons looked in past Final Fantasy games already. I mean, Ixion instead of Ramuh? What the hell FFX. Clearly not a real Lightning Summon, the developers should have fixed that for the HD rerelease.
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    Exodus-E's Avatar
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    Swygnebb Ahldhyltsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I mean, Ixion instead of Ramuh? What the hell FFX. Clearly not a real Lightning Summon, the developers should have fixed that for the HD rerelease.
    The (most likely) reason for that may be same as to why FFVIII didn't have him as well (instead, we had Quetzacoatl): because the summons on those games could be "trained" and "taught" new stuff, something that would've been redundant/useless for someone as old and wise as Ramuh.
    Thus, why they had to replace him with something else.

    I'm more concerned as to why we didn't get Leviathan on FFX though, given how big the whole theme of water/sea was in that game (not to mention that it didn't even have any Water-based summon to complete the four-elemental ones)...now THAT's something I would have love to see on the HD re-release.
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    Last edited by Exodus-E; 06-09-2014 at 10:21 AM.