I'm just glad they're not like FFXI's summons. I got tired of constantly having Titan's a** in my face, crowding the screen.
I'm just glad they're not like FFXI's summons. I got tired of constantly having Titan's a** in my face, crowding the screen.
Make a Free Company dedicated to summoning the full Primals when that gets released, problem solved. Or hope that the individualized Limit Breaks for Summoner are impressive and summoning related.
Last edited by Nalien; 06-09-2014 at 03:28 AM.



Uh, no.
The Summoner job (thus, the summons themselves) first appeared in FF3.
But if you want to be get technical about it, Bahamut's first appearance was back in the very first FF, while Leviathan's (kind of) first appearance was in FF2.
So yeah...



You're right; hence why I said "if you want to get technical about it".
Bahamut and Leviathan were there from the beginning, even though they weren't summons.
But my point still stands that summons as we "know them" didn't first appear on FF4; it was earlier than that.
Summoner is a massive disappointment for me in XIV. DoTing, with minimalist primal control (and ugly models).
Am I the only one who actually likes the eggis and prefer them to a bigger summon???



Honestly, I prefer to follow the lore of summoner in that the egi is the best a mortal can manage in drawing off a primal's power. Not because the summoner is weak, the battle to even claim an egi as well as besting the primal itself is proof that the summoner isn't weak. It's that the egi's as assed as the primal is willing to get in giving you their power. Following the lore and quest story, summoning is you asking the primals to fight for you through the summoning spell. Further, like the primals themselves, the egis need mana to persist so their 'fun-size' is probably as big as a summoner can support with their innate mana emanations. If they were bigger/more impressive we'd probably be back to perpetuation costs and egis would be treated like the summons were in XI. Called out to do one, maybe two things before switching to your low cost summon.
The problem with SE is that they lost the iconic shapes in their egi attempts.
Titan is fine though, he looks like a Titan. But it is hard to determine the Ifrit design in the Ifrit-egi. Impossible to tell there is a Garuda inside the Garuda-egi.
SE needs to focus more on the shape of the summons and less on the elemental parts. Leviathan need to look like a serpant, and after that it can be as watery as they like. Shiva must look like a woman, and then it can be as spikey as they want the ice be.
We've heard all kinds of reasoning and WK'ing on this issue.
Yet the only reason these threads appear is that they look bad and as stated don't even resemble the summons.
The only exception is carbuncle because it at least behaves like a living being and has it's own animations. The rest of the hower-rocks all blend together.
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