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  1. #21
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    ShinkuTachi's Avatar
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    Pyro Frost
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    I'm just glad they're not like FFXI's summons. I got tired of constantly having Titan's a** in my face, crowding the screen.
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  2. #22
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Twintania
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    Lancer Lv 64
    Make a Free Company dedicated to summoning the full Primals when that gets released, problem solved. Or hope that the individualized Limit Breaks for Summoner are impressive and summoning related.
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    Last edited by Nalien; 06-09-2014 at 03:28 AM.

  3. #23
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    Swygnebb Ahldhyltsyn
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    Summons first appeared as we know them in FF4.
    Uh, no.

    The Summoner job (thus, the summons themselves) first appeared in FF3.

    But if you want to be get technical about it, Bahamut's first appearance was back in the very first FF, while Leviathan's (kind of) first appearance was in FF2.

    So yeah...
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  4. #24
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    Evercy Warclan
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    Bahamut's first appearance was back in the very first FF
    He wasn't a summon though. He was the Dragon God/King/whatever that was only used as a plot device to upgrade your characters. It wasn't until FF3 that he was usable and remembered as a summon
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  5. #25
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    Swygnebb Ahldhyltsyn
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64 View Post
    He wasn't a summon though. He was the Dragon God/King/whatever that was only used as a plot device to upgrade your characters. It wasn't until FF3 that he was usable and remembered as a summon
    You're right; hence why I said "if you want to get technical about it".
    Bahamut and Leviathan were there from the beginning, even though they weren't summons.
    But my point still stands that summons as we "know them" didn't first appear on FF4; it was earlier than that.
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  6. #26
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    Anorex's House
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 38
    Summoner is a massive disappointment for me in XIV. DoTing, with minimalist primal control (and ugly models).
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  7. #27
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    Lady Zola
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    Shiva
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Am I the only one who actually likes the eggis and prefer them to a bigger summon???
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  8. #28
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    Gilraen Bior
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 70
    Honestly, I prefer to follow the lore of summoner in that the egi is the best a mortal can manage in drawing off a primal's power. Not because the summoner is weak, the battle to even claim an egi as well as besting the primal itself is proof that the summoner isn't weak. It's that the egi's as assed as the primal is willing to get in giving you their power. Following the lore and quest story, summoning is you asking the primals to fight for you through the summoning spell. Further, like the primals themselves, the egis need mana to persist so their 'fun-size' is probably as big as a summoner can support with their innate mana emanations. If they were bigger/more impressive we'd probably be back to perpetuation costs and egis would be treated like the summons were in XI. Called out to do one, maybe two things before switching to your low cost summon.
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  9. #29
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    Lalah Elakha
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    The problem with SE is that they lost the iconic shapes in their egi attempts.

    Titan is fine though, he looks like a Titan. But it is hard to determine the Ifrit design in the Ifrit-egi. Impossible to tell there is a Garuda inside the Garuda-egi.

    SE needs to focus more on the shape of the summons and less on the elemental parts. Leviathan need to look like a serpant, and after that it can be as watery as they like. Shiva must look like a woman, and then it can be as spikey as they want the ice be.
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  10. #30
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    Seif Dincht
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 72
    We've heard all kinds of reasoning and WK'ing on this issue.
    Yet the only reason these threads appear is that they look bad and as stated don't even resemble the summons.

    The only exception is carbuncle because it at least behaves like a living being and has it's own animations. The rest of the hower-rocks all blend together.
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