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  1. #11
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    Amberion's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriea View Post
    All summons in every FF game besides XI lasted 10-60 secs and cost a lot to summon. It was a nice but rare occasion to use them or at least was meant that way. In XI there was the perp costs (for those who never played XI basically they cost mp/tic until you completely drained your mp and they disappeared because you couldn't sustain them anymore).
    I think you are forgetting to include X and XIII in that. Esper-Terra in FF6, which is semi-summon. Not sure about 8,9 and 12... Can't remember those that much.

    Not all of them were short either, the FF8 GF Eden had like a 3 or 4 minute summon scene, I used to get up and get a snack while I summoned it. lol
    Knights of the Round was fairly long in FFVII also if I remember correctly.
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    Vittorino Saggio
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    I know Summoner's summon the Primals in the form of high spirits but why do they look like something that I would cook up and eat.
    Ifrit Egi - looks like a red chicken with horns
    Titan Egi - looks like chicken nuggets
    Garuda Egi - looks like a green duck.
    At the very least the Egis should resemble the Primals.
    Here's a "Remedy" don't play the class nor look at them. Solved.
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  3. #13
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    MeeDeggiThePunisher's Avatar
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    Sevro Barca
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    I know Summoner's summon the Primals in the form of high spirits but why do they look like something that I would cook up and eat.
    Ifrit Egi - looks like a red chicken with horns
    Titan Egi - looks like chicken nuggets
    Garuda Egi - looks like a green duck.
    At the very least the Egis should resemble the Primals.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V300FlcyVnc
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  4. #14
    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Summons first appeared as we know them in FF4. From 4 until 9 they were single use "spells" that popped out, did their thing, then vanished. 7,8, and 9 had some fairly lengthy summon CSs but that was it. 10 introduced somewhat persistent avatars but they replaced your entire party while they were out and a lot of bosses were given abilities specifically to one shot your eidolon. 11 took it a step farther with them being part of the party but they cost constant MP (perp cost) and could only do something other than autoattack once per minute (30 secs after they split blood pacts into two categories). Just like spells in the game, avatar abilities also became obsoleted by higher level abilities so basically they were one ability wonders. The fights to get them were kind of bland as well. Same recolored arena every time (other than a select few) and avatars I always felt should be larger. Why weren't they larger? Because they had to be of a size that they wouldn't look ridiculous following the SMN around and cause lag etc. The devs in 14 separated the full fledged Primals from the summoned versions so they could make the fights as impressive as possible without feeling limited by the fact the model would have to follow a PC around. I prefer the Egis to little shrunk down versions of the Primals themselves.
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    Last edited by Lithera; 06-09-2014 at 02:29 AM.

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    Rori Uguu
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    PS3 limitations.
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  6. #16
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    Alukah Bast
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    [...] I prefer the Egis to little shrunk down versions of the Primals themselves.
    I agree, I personally don't want them to look like the original primals, but what we have now is just a joke, they look like if they were rushed (and they probably were).
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    PS3 limitations.
    Not really. As I said, they wouldn't use the full sized avatar models from the battles, they'd be shrunk down with a lower polygon count as to not be obtrusive and clipping through everything (Titan would clip thorugh a lot of cave roofs and overhangs lol). They'd use no more system resources than the Egis really, plus the game only every has to load each one once and replicate for each person who has an avatar out. They would have the same affect the egis do currently in that they take up a spot in the maximum number of NPCs/PCs visible at any one time onscreen on the PS3.
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  8. #18
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    Kuroyasha Tenshi
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    target: akiza,

    /chuckle
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  9. #19
    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    I agree, I personally don't want them to look like the original primals, but what we have now is just a joke, they look like if they were rushed (and they probably were).
    What about them seems rushed? I think the Egi models are well done. Just because people disagree with the design doesn't make them bad or rushed. Some people think modern art is garbage, others think it's awesome, either way the artist expressed their vision and they aren't going to back and redo their sculpture because of a few critics. Same here. The graphics artists, and Yoshi, had a vision. We got their vision. It's their art and they aren't going to change it because some players don't share that vision.
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    Shanoa Varhara
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    I see Akiza escaped the DPS forum and made it over to Gen Chat.
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    Last edited by Kikosho; 06-09-2014 at 01:35 PM.

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