Relic quest summary -> Good by to casuals

[Souljacker]

That's why this artificial way of producing "content" is so terrible. It was terrible in XI and it's terrible here. I've just started my relic quest, and between work and college I can play maybe an hour or two a day. That relic is super important though - to the point where people have told me not to bother coming to their groups without it. So, casuals will be locked out of content that they don't have the time to grind out because the quest is poorly designed. I don't mind gear that is gated behind difficulty in the least; in fact, isn't that why we play? To conquer hard content and get that feeling of accomplishment from taking down a difficult encounter?

On the other hand, it's mostly just "omg thank the twelve its FINALLY OVER" when you are gated behind gathering 9999999 of currency x. Add to that the fact that the next patch will update it yet again for those who DO have that kind of time, and you end up with a serious problem for large portion of the playerbase.

[Vahlnir]

Honestly, I don't mind the time sink either. It's when the time sink is utterly tedious(Atma), goes against what the lead developer said(Look at my sig), come to find out is even more BS due to more information from the lead developer(Animus books aren't actually the original, potentially "hard to find in Eorzea" copies that we were told, in game, they'd be, thus making their cost even more idiotic), that I begin to have issues.

For the relic upgrades, as I said before, aside from the myth buy-in to start Novus, I don't have a single problem with how it appears to be. The Atma/Animus situation on the other hand.....

Hmm, yeah, I see your point concerning the Atma/Animus grind as it was most certainly tedious...but even then it's all in how people approach it. I should hold off from judging the Novus grind as well until I dive deeper into it, as a whole I suppose it isn't entirely too bad.

[Nayto]

True, same for me. After 2 decades of aiming and obtaining world/server first over several MMO's and always aiming to be #1 Guild/Fc, you start to not care about it anymore. I see it like driving a car; when i got my license almost 17 years ago, i always wanted to be the "king of the road". Fastest car, driving like there is no tomorrow and so on. Today i don't give a damn anymore, let those young people do what they do, i will arrive at my destinaton at the pace i want. May be a bit slower, but does not make the destination less worth.

QFT.
Haven't even gotten my atma yet and only 4/12s on it since patch day. I make the most of my atma farms by SBing in it too for some profit (yeah gil is worthless... to the guy who said it is), and sure people will wonder why bother making shitty materia.

Meh... loh and behold you need the shitty materia for the novus. Guess I'll win this relic race as the tortoise since everyone is being the hare; blowing millions on materia and losing their shit on alexandrite when hunts aren't even out yet.

[Mireille]

you guys are missing the point, i don't think the problem is the time, top tier weapon should require a lot of time, the problem is the myth grinding, the 90% of the quest is just running the same 3 dungeons hundreds of times to get 60k tomes, getting 13500 for the animus is plain boring but 60k tomes sounds more like a april fools joke, that's just bad design.

Grinding to a legendary weapon is par for the course in Final Fantasy games. In X you had to play through a lot of blitzball matches to get Waka's weapon, or do the lighting jumping game 200 times in a row without failing to get Lulu's. In XIII you farmed mobs for rare drops, and you needed a lot of them. I've been told the requirements were just as grindy in some of the early games as well. It's a grind, and you have to really really want it to do it, but no content actually requires it to clear, so it's a totally optional grind.

[ShinkuTachi]

Personally, I'm just playing the waiting game as far as the Novus goes.

The Animus is good enough to clear all content though 2.3 anyway. So, I'm just going to let everyone who is in a hurry do all the grunt work and make mistakes, then I will swoop in later and do mine right the first time.

You will have alternatives though....I hope... they may give you one for the Novus here in 2.3 or something.

There will be, IIRC Ramuh will have a weapon, though I don't recall the iLV or if an iLV was even mention in the last LL

[Luxx]

I'd like to point out that the 1st step can be done within a few hours of hitting 50 and picking up the quest.

Then comes Titan. He himself takes quite some time LOL. Good luck if you're doing it solo and on your way to DF.

Anyways, there has nothing to do hardcores or casuals. There's nothing hard by obtaining the Atma or Animus.
It requires: Patience, Diligence, Dedication, Time , and some snacks.
I only have the last one, because I ain't patient and I wanna do Levi for the cool lookin' book!
You will have alternatives though....I hope... they may give you one for the Novus here in 2.3 or something.
It's a grind, a mindless grind fest. No skills or thought required. ;c
By the time you guys did all this, you'd probably have the High Allagan stuff from
T9. xD Which I believe the Novus is a lesser to it anyway. Seems more fun to me and something
I willing to try my best to get.

[Arkista]

I am casual, and for me, it's not the grind, but how fast they are adding the next upgrade. I have 1/9 of animus books complete so you can see I have a long way yet to go before even thinking about novus. The problem is that soon 2.3 will arrive with probably another upgrade grind. It's just going to leave me too far behind to ever catch up.

Must have started late on the Relic? Took me 5 weeks to do Atma(1week)/Animus(4weeks) and I'm a forced Casual ATM. Honestly I really don't See SE adding in the next part of the Relic in 2.3, I say we have 2-3 weeks before 2.3 and there are probably going to be a small handful of players with a Novus. They delayed Novus because only a small portion of the player base had Animus, so expect the same. Getting the Materia for the Novus is the easy part, People need to stop buying these over priced materia cause you can't even get Novus until you have 75 Alexandrite. When 2.3 hit obtaining Alex should become a little bit faster with Hunts, So long as there isn't a lockout. So catching up isn't going to be an issue for anyone. Unless you start a week before the patch.

[givemeraptors]

so it's a totally optional grind.

This whole game is optional, what's your point?

[OmniEx]

Well as an Australian playing on a primarily NA server that raids with an FC that is comprised of Americans. I find that the times I can get on are when most of my fc are sleeping so having something I can do myself is always good. That's why I don't mind that Novus will probably take me awhile. Sure ill probably get my high Allagan first (On T8 currently) but who knows maybe RNG will be bad for me like it was with twinc so having something else as a backup is never a bad thing.

[chococo]

I think most ppl jumping on those that do not like the relic quest do not realise that all this hardwork/grind is not really the issue if the end product is worth the grind. Relic is only as good as upgraded soldiery weapon but is much more work.

The so-called customisation means very little as there will be cookie cutter ones as secondary stats mean so little and certain stats are just better than others.