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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by SniperRifle View Post
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    YoshiP: In FFXIV Grand Company can be said that it’s the main world of FFXIV. How it relates to the 3 countries, with the Empire? (Teikoku). Also how characters from FF Series (the name) comes into play. In 1.18 there is one big story so if you can please enjoy that as well

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    I'm talking about actual content related to Grand Companies such as earning company ranks and rewards. What he's saying is there's gonna be more stories (sidequests) about the grand companies and how they came to be, which is more of the same words words words words we've had for months now.

    Come on guys you seriously can't take some walls of text and a quest that'll have you running from one NPC to another as actual content right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    I'm talking about actual content related to Grand Companies such as earning company ranks and rewards. What he's saying is there's gonna be more stories (sidequests) about the grand companies and how they came to be, which is more of the same words words words words we've had for months now.

    Come on guys you seriously can't take some walls of text and a quest that'll have you running from one NPC to another as actual content right?
    Nope. We won't. We know that. Yoshi knows that. Therefore, if Grand Companies is that, it will be no surprise why the game is dead. So, that being said, do you think Grand Companies is just going to be text crits and NPC running? Mentally you're saying no. But you think it's a possibility and therefore it will happen. But it won't. Game will be fine. Just hone your patience skills and content will arrive before you know it. I'm aware I'm assuming, but then again, so are you.
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  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by SniperRifle View Post
    Lastly, if this game does fail hard on the PS3 release. It still won't be Yoshi Ps fault. He will have still designed the game that he wanted to create; people not wanting to play it is an entirely different thing.
    You really think Yoshi would have designed the game in this way?

    He's fixing something that is screwed, something that was not his fault to start with. He's not making it from scratch.

    A turd is still a turd, no matter how much glitter you pour on it.
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    I have some hope that it won't be just walls of text, but fully-fledged cutscenes. It's a bit of a shame that they're calling the start of companies, since we already kind of had the start (the start of the start of the start etc) many months ago when they released the second batch of sidequests.

    Who knows what that "big storyline" involves, though. Could be anything. Maybe even fights.
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    Last edited by Mug; 07-07-2011 at 03:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokawa View Post
    You really think Yoshi would have designed the game in this way?

    He's fixing something that is screwed, something that was not his fault to start with. He's not making it from scratch.

    A turd is still a turd, no matter how much glitter you pour on it.
    Overhaul
    Verb: Take apart (a piece of machinery or equipment) in order to examine it and repair it if necessary

    I would've used the noun but seeing as how he is overhauling almost every aspect of the game, it's safe to say he's taking it apart. The visuals are what we're left with from the start, which, apparently effect you deeply judging by your sig. However, didn't the devs agree to overhaul the zones as well it would just take a long time? And don't ask for a source, it's in your sig.

    A turd isn't a turd if you... yea, whatever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokawa View Post

    A turd is still a turd, no matter how much glitter you pour on it.
    lol.... who puts glitter on their turds these days?
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    well no matter what they say im just dieing to finally see the 1.18 patch just because it has been forever since they changed something in the game besides bugs and small stuff :/.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SniperRifle View Post
    Nope. We won't. We know that. Yoshi knows that. Therefore, if Grand Companies is that, it will be no surprise why the game is dead. So, that being said, do you think Grand Companies is just going to be text crits and NPC running? Mentally you're saying no. But you think it's a possibility and therefore it will happen. But it won't. Game will be fine. Just hone your patience skills and content will arrive before you know it. I'm aware I'm assuming, but then again, so are you.
    I really doubt it's more than anything like the sidequests we already had or they would've been teasing us about how amazingly awesome the new Grand Company quests are. Which they won't be I can pretty much tell already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokawa View Post
    You really think Yoshi would have designed the game in this way?

    He's fixing something that is screwed, something that was not his fault to start with. He's not making it from scratch.

    A turd is still a turd, no matter how much glitter you pour on it.
    This may be true.. however, if you're a Japanese scientist a turd may be a valuable source of protein. So let us trust Yoshi P and hope his magic pulls something out of nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    There's a difference between saying something is planned and posting complete and detailed descriptions on the lodestone. You know for how long the Grand Company page has been live? It talks in fairly decent detail what grand companies are supposed to do and what players can gain from them... Since then they have not been mentioned ONCE, I mean never. Not in a producer's letter, not in a community rep post, nothing.

    That's just one of several things that were promised and planned out, only to disappear into nothing.
    Hi Colino,

    I understand your frustration, but your statement above is simply not true. They *have* been doing some minor things with the Grand Company and coming 7th Umbral Age after mentioning them on Lodestone initially.

    Besides the Interview Sniper posted where they talk about it (and it being a big part of 1.18), they implemented Side Quests in the game where you can help generate interest and investigate the resurrection of the Grand Companies of Eorzea. There's a Quest in Ul'dah, Limsa and Gridania that you can do, for this.

    In addition, there are other Side Quests added that hint / mention about the upcoming Garlean Empire (potential) Invasion that are in the game right now.

    Do they have full, glorious CG Movies to really kick it off? No. But they are pretty interesting if one takes the time to do them. The writing and lore in those Side Quests are leagues better than the bad Guildleve Text we've had at launch.

    Tied into this and the coming 7th Umbral Age are things like Alfgar (sp), the mysterious NPC that appears in Town and decries the charlatan who's spouting about the prophesies.

    And then the Arcanist GM that appears in various Camps and Towns, shouting out the prophesy of the coming 7th Umbral Age, and giving everyone in the area a 10 Minute AOE Buff of various enhancements that might be future Arcanist Weaponskills / Abilities (which were pretty cool to get).

    They also started tweaking the world a bit: No Music playing across Thanalan randomly, to try and add mood. They the skies pour down Rain more frequently (especially in odd places like the Thanalan Desert), and since the last couple small patches, it's been raining a LOT more. It's subtle, but it adds to the feeling that *something* is coming; that *something* is about to happen.

    They changed various NPC Dialogue (like at the Guildleve Counters and Camp Guards) talking about the ominous stranger and prophesies.

    And most recently, they've had the Arcanist GM appear and spawn Aggressive Monsters that attack the Camps.

    I think this is more than "nothing" being done about this major event / system since the Grand Company Page was launched.

    Could they have done *more*? Sure.

    But ask yourself, what good would it have done, if they rushed to launch the Grand Companies of Eorzea with NO "battlegrounds" to participate in the activities they're about?

    Would you have been happy if they launched the Grand Companies, but they didn't finish any Raid Dungeons or Frontier Quest Hubs, and instead sent you to... Nanawa Mines? or Camp Broken Water? (~_~) I think most of us would've flamed Team Yoshida and given up on the game completely then.

    From the Interview, it sounds like the Grand Companies of Eorzea are going to form the backbone of Final Fantasy XIV (at least in some respects). A major system to generate long-term goals and incentivize players.

    Could they just go ahead and release the Loot Table / Rewards for the Grand Companies months ago to give us "something" that you're asking for? I think it wasn't ready then. It's not simply just a Picture and some stats. They're rewriting the entire Combat System. Implementing a Job System and changing the way Classes are fundamentally. So I can't imagine it would be as simple as just rushing out an update with real info like:

    Grand Company Rewards:
    * Save the Queen (Sword): STR +7, VIT +5, Attack 200
    * Astrica (Staff): INT +9, PIE +5, Magic Attack 225
    * etc.

    since Rewards / Loot for the Grand Companies are tied to the rewrite of the Combat System, and the Jobs and Classes.

    If they need time, they need time. There's nothing we can do about that. But they've been doing some things to build up interest in the Grand Companies and the 7th Umbral Age.

    I'd love to have the Grand Companies last month, but we don't know all the intricacies that go into their specific nightmare of overhauling FF XIV. I'm willing to wait and see how 1.18, 1.19 and 1.20 go.
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