Patch 1.18 release date now looking grim for july??

[Holland]

I respectfully disagree. However if you are right he would be making a huge mistake because not keeping the playerbase that kept the game alive in the first place would be extremely stupid.

I would like to remind you the game is "alive" because it is free to play at the moment. No one would pay a fee for the game is its current state. I will rephrase what I said though. It is not that he cares less about the current playerbase, while trying as best he can to maintain the current player base, his focus is to have the game ready for PS3. Remember in the most recent interview he had, he specifically stated that he was taking a huge risk by releasing these two dungeons now before the battle changes are complete.

What I get from that is two things.
1: Trying to make the playerbase a bit happy about some form of meatier content being released, which has not happened at all since release

2: He did so against his better judgement. If it would be completely his choice, he would not have released anything until all the changes are in place, but that would leave the playerbase without anything to look forward too in the next patch, hence, why he said he was taking a huge risk.

I will venture to say the same thing about the Airship implementation on 1.19 that he is hopeful to introduce. He has indicated it will receive extra development after, meaning, is a placeholder to make traveling between cities easier, again, it if was for him, he would not release an unfinished content, but he is forced to because of the current playerbase. All this, is just my opinion. I am against the servers being shut down, as I feel the development speed would be the same regardless.

Edit: I apologize if something does not make sense, English is not my primary language (I read through it twice ;p)

[Colino]

No, I get what you're saying.

What I'm saying is that, good intentions or not, regardless of his priorities (PS3 or PC version) it's unfair to the userbase for him to continuosly teas us of "upcoming" content when it's not upcoming at all.

I'm not talking about the raids which we know are coming, I'm talking about the stuff I mentioned earlier.

[Holland]

No, I get what you're saying.

What I'm saying is that, good intentions or not, regardless of his priorities (PS3 or PC version) it's unfair to the userbase for him to continuosly teas us of "upcoming" content when it's not upcoming at all.

I'm not talking about the raids which we know are coming, I'm talking about the stuff I mentioned earlier.

Read through your post again. Ah yes, what he mentioned about the end of the world, the umbrall era, more dangers to eorzea since it feels to peaceful.

I hope this does not look like I am defending for the sake of it, but...

All this, was promised way before the two players poll. After those game changing polls, the player base wanted radical changes to the game, changes that would take an incredible amount of time and work as indicated by Yoshida's review of the second one when he said that was surprised to see players wanted physical levels removed and that would entail a lot of restructuring. I think what has delayed this game's resurrection was the initial request of radical changes. I believe no one thought twice, before selecting options, how much work would require to re-design core mechanics from the ground up.

I did not participate in the polls, as I was not a player yet, but I am sure I would have asked for radical changes too without giving much thought to the work necessary. =/

[Colino]

I did not participate in the polls, as I was not a player yet, but I am sure I would have asked for radical changes too without giving much thought to the work necessary. =/

Well I did participate in the pools. The first one happened right before the original 7th Umbral Era tease and the other happened before the Grand Company tease. This is content that was teased and talked about a long time ago.

Were you here for the easter event? Did you follow any of that and not realise it wasn't a gigantic tease that just didn't happen?

If they knew in advance that it was content they couldn't provide, why tease it so heavily? Have you read all the text-only lore they posted on the lodestone and the massive amount of teasing they've done with grand companies both here and in-game? It's all talk and words, with nothing happening.

I just don't find any of that fair, especially for the people like me who played in beta and despite it having numerous issues bought the Collector's Edition on Launch Day, only to end up in this hurricane of issues and dev team changes. I'm not angry for any of that but I am not happy that since then nothing true has happened.

[Holland]

Well I did participate in the pools. The first one happened right before the original 7th Umbral Era tease and the other happened before the Grand Company tease. This is content that was teased and talked about a long time ago.

Where you here for the easter event? Did you follow any of that and not realise it wasn't a gigantic tease that just didn't happen?

I started playing only on 3/25. Right on the day the Servers went up after the tragic earthquake. I was there for the easter event. As a side note, I enjoyed it a lot and even though I only was able to compare them to previous events using other players comments, I must say it was a huge improvement over the others, this was a multilayered event in all sense of the word (The most accurate explanation for it would be a specific post made by Sorel in one of the related threads about the event).

Seeing this was promised shortly before the polls though, only tells me that Yoshida's vision of the game was clear, even at the start on his appointment and that his commitment for fixing the game is unwavering even to the slight angry response from the players (this has been the most SE-fan response I have ever made lol!)

In all reality though, saying what he had planned for the game shortly before the polls went live does not have any connection (I think). He was just stating on a very vague way, what he wanted for the game (the comment about eorzea was too peaceful and more dangers were needed). On the 7th umbral era promise, again this is just to have the game ready for when new players from PS3 release come aboard, to not find a peaceful Eorzea, but one waging war against the empire or what ever.

For the tone of my comments, I hope anybody realizes that, while I play this game from time to time, I want the game to succeed. But, seeing everything that SE has done to try and keep the game going and fixing it. I really dont see what else can be done. I really dont.

Edit: response submitted before reading your Edit.

[Colino]

In all reality though, saying what he had planned for the game shortly before the polls went live does not have any connection (I think).

There's a difference between saying something is planned and posting complete and detailed descriptions on the lodestone. You know for how long the Grand Company page has been live? It talks in fairly decent detail what grand companies are supposed to do and what players can gain from them... Since then they have not been mentioned ONCE, I mean never. Not in a producer's letter, not in a community rep post, nothing.

That's just one of several things that were promised and planned out, only to disappear into nothing.

Look, I want the game to succeed as well. Why else would I be playing it for over a year now including alpha and beta? Hell, I even bought the max amount of crysta I could once the game was out so I could get the best deal. Fully aware that I was gonna play at least for another year.

The fact of the matter is that if you were around for longer you'd be more understanding of what I'm saying.

And yes the Easter event was much better than others. That's not saying much because every event before that was just interacting with some bells to get crafting items and creating unique gear that you could find in the marketwards the next day for 10k gil or less.

[Holland]

I will agree your playtime does affect how much patience you have waiting for things to change. Now, I think not giving a, I dont want to say vague, but, Hmmm. Not giving at least a glimpse of your vision of the game would have been worse than saying the things about the umbral era. At the time, the game was in worse shape than now. Promising change, without giving a clear date or even timeframe was enough for players to be hopeful and not quit.

On the companies of Eorzea, seeing one of the dungeons, I believe Toto-rak, is the same dungeon depicted in "The Raven" newspaper, this will further provide details on companies, including the quests that start them and the dungeons itself.

In my opinion, all this content will be ready by PS3 release, making it out to be an incredible journey for new players to have access to companies. You imagine you need to clear those quests (the dungeon related ones) to be able to have your first rank in the companies? or even as a test? to be able to join any of them?. All this about companies is just starting. It can not be fleshed out before the battle changes are complete, unfortunately for all of us, including the Development team.

[Leonesaurus]

But how will they survive the winter!? Chocobos have FEATHERS, not FUR!

We'll skin some aldgoats and wrap them up in their hides! LOL Either that or they can fly (run) south for the winter and come back.

[SniperRifle]

There's a difference between saying something is planned and posting complete and detailed descriptions on the lodestone. You know for how long the Grand Company page has been live? It talks in fairly decent detail what grand companies are supposed to do and what players can gain from them... Since then they have not been mentioned ONCE, I mean never. Not in a producer's letter, not in a community rep post, nothing.

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YoshiP: In FFXIV Grand Company can be said that it’s the main world of FFXIV. How it relates to the 3 countries, with the Empire? (Teikoku). Also how characters from FF Series (the name) comes into play. In 1.18 there is one big story so if you can please enjoy that as well

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[Holland]

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YoshiP: In FFXIV Grand Company can be said that it’s the main world of FFXIV. How it relates to the 3 countries, with the Empire? (Teikoku). Also how characters from FF Series (the name) comes into play. In 1.18 there is one big story so if you can please enjoy that as well

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Thats the one!. i was looking for that quote from Yoshida and obviously could not find it in any Producers Letter =/

Yes, some story development for companies will start on 1.18. I dont think it will be the whole stuff, but the start of it.