Tougher Locations

[Calevr]

I have said this in various posts before but I want to bring it up again as a suggestion or debate. Could some future locations have tougher monsters similar to how Final Fantasy XI had. I am not talking about Notorius Monsters, nor am I saying all locations but a few that would make even the best equipped feel uncertain to fight alone. There would need to be a purpose for players to want to go to these locations and probably need a different type of content but I would like to to experience this again. I know this game is not going to be Final Fantasy XI-2 so some ideas for content that offers replay value and a sense of danger.

What do you guys think?

[Calevr]

A few examples of locations and content from myself and others.

Conquest - Myself
Shadowlord Castle - Taruranto
Necrohol of Nabudis - Inanna
The Feywood - Inanna
Nabreus Deadlans - Inanna

[Taruranto]

Agree. We definitely need areas like the shadowlord castle or similar, place a level 50 can't fight alone.

Eorzea is basically a little kid playground, as it is now.

[Cherie]

It would be nice. Actually the ffxiv 1.0 had random tough monsters just roaming around. Sure there were notorious monsters too, but also just generic monsters 20++ levels above even the highest level just waiting for a good snack to come by.

I'd love something like that. They wouldn't even have to drop anything neat or even give experience. But just maybe they'd be more engaging than those monsters that throw heavy on you in basically every zone. Because when that happens, I feel no urgency, no threat of death. I could surely dismount and dispatch them all (as could anyone), but I just don't want to, because it would be boring. Now if the same monster cast heavy on me, and could catch up to me and brutally murder me....then maybe, my heart might race a little and I'd try harder to get away. But really, when a monster puts heavy on you, they can't even catch up to you most often... and even if they do...they hit you for maybe 2% of your health... ; ; And so if I kill one, I don't feel like a hero, I feel like a bully...

[TeganLaron]

Totally agree. There is nowhere in the whole world of Eorzea do I need to be careful. I'm not just talking about when I'm in i90+ gear, I'm wiping beastmen and Garleans out in i40ish spirtibonding gear.

Also, along with stronger enemies in general, I'd like more of an open world punishment for dying. Maybe an extended weakness, or no teleports for a period of time. Because as it stands now there are actually situations where it's favourable to just kill yourself when your Return is on CD to get a free ride. Death should always be viewed as the ultimate thing to avoid.

[Delfxia]

I like the conquest idea, maybe tie it into the new hunts system and somehow with the treasure map system too. The could even give low amounts of tomes or somesuch as trade-ins for CP if they did. I do miss FFXI areas tho what with the possibility of a mob ganking you lol. Not a threat in this game.

[Cherie]

Totally agree. There is nowhere in the whole world of Eorzea do I need to be careful. I'm not just talking about when I'm in i90+ gear, I'm wiping beastmen and Garleans out in i40ish spirtibonding gear.

Oh, you can say that one step further. Myself and lots of people I know spiritbond in crafting gear and maybe that is what you mean too. For those who don't do this, I'm talking about gear with no damage stats at all or even vitality. Gear with no useful battle stats. I go out, fully equipped in this stuff, with only a weapon and kill mobs that are my same level, often many at a time. I never have any trouble at all... Essentially it's the same as fighting naked. :/

As far as the open world is concerned, you can fight naked.... :x Eorzea is a world where clothing is optional! I see people sometimes get to 50 wearing a few pieces of starter race gear. While most people figure out how to equip gear on their jaunt to 50, not everyone does!

[LordNickage]

I would definitely like more of a sense of danger in the open world!

[AiChyan]

I wish this would happen, especially that the game's idea of open world difficulty it a heavy or a paralysis debuff which forces you to roll your eyes, step down from your mount and kill stuff. Or just stand around and have mobs hit and hit till debuff wears off and you go.

[Kosmos992k]

Agree. We definitely need areas like the shadowlord castle or similar, place a level 50 can't fight alone.

Eorzea is basically a little kid playground, as it is now.

You are not the adventurer you were when you started. Try re-rolling an Alt and take a walk through Northern Thanlan and come back and tell us how much of a little kid's playground it is. You're a warrior of light now, you're meant to be one the biggest and power powerful warriors around. So naturally Eorzea is less threatening to you now.