Acceptable Cash Shop Items: Suggestions!

[Diavolo]

I rather just not have cash shop in general. Too great becomes the temptation to nickel and dime people into P2W, even if the initial intent is just glamour related.

[Bloodclaw]

I rather just not have cash shop in general. Too great becomes the temptation to nickel and dime people into P2W, even if the initial intent is just glamour related.

OOOH I TOTALLY agree. However they will need up up their money intake, so I think it is unavoidable. I just want to help steer it in a good direction.

[rina_inverse]

OOOH I TOTALLY agree. However they will need up up their money intake, so I think it is unavoidable. I just want to help steer it in a good direction.

but they already have their money intake
from my subs

so, nope

[Bloodclaw]

but they already have their money intake
from my subs

so, nope

Subs will decline, not increase. They always do.

[Killance]

Subs will decline, not increase. They always do.

Subs will continue to decline with this cash shop feature. Its one thing to have gender/race/name change available, its a completely different game if you add armor, bardings, and things like that.

SE needs to get their head out of their asses and not go through with this cash shop.

[Skull_Angel]

They take away things from the game. It would make crafters even more useless.

Because vanity in this game is content...

Right now, the main market that crafters have is people who are looking for cool vanity items. If these vanity items are offered in a cash shop, then that reduces incentive to craft, destroys the in-game market for crafted goods (no demand), and generally reduces the usefulness of crafting in general. Except for food. Those Culinarians are always in need.

This can be a valid argument, but it is more or less countered by offering items that are not available through crafting. Also, crafting can be made more viable by allowing crafters to make more powerful equipment [that is more equal to "raid" gear] (under certain restrictions), since that is a very real concern (I do craft myself).

I'll also note that i'm yet to see a good argument why they SHOULD be in the game. If you're so desperate to give them more money take out a second sub, or buy another collectors edition.

I'm not saying that they should, but if a company decides to open a cash shop in a P2P based game it's their decision. I have no issue with it if it's done in a way that does not create a P2W game.

Think about it like this: We pay a monthly fee to play this game, all features involved. Adding a vanity shop divorces some of the content that could be in game so people might shell out more for it.
You're effectively paying more for content that should be obtainable in the game you're already paying for.

Yes, and no. Adding a vanity shop doesn't necessarily take away from any in-game content unless the level of content being released in that category (vanity) is being reduced because of it.

What happens to that "excess" money is a big concern though; if it is going into further developing the game or even to legitimate charitable causes, I believe it to be acceptable.