Leviathan FC Progression Thread V4

[DreXxiN]

um...how exactly can I be part of two teams when there are these things called lockouts?

Okay. Say you're apart of Advent Union. You also take part in Ero Join (LS). You decide to conveniently go with whoever is further in progression and credit goes to that group. You're still a resource to either group, except since people in your Linkshell are ALSO apart of competing guilds, they have no ties to that specific linkshell. Therefore, you just go with your superstar linkshell and push Free Companies to a disadvantage. And you can choose to do this with any amount of Linkshells you're apart of. Also, if your Free Company sucks and your raid time is over, you can gather those people on a weekend in the Linkshell and clear then and diminish the value of Free Companies, or any exclusivity rather. That and read my prior points I've made and address those.

I'm not total Nazi-mode against allowing Linkshells, these are just my concerns.

[Woona]

I'm pretty confident that people don't want to transfer servers solely to be part of a Linkshell.

I'd xfer to be part of a linkshell that killed/was close to kill t9, specially if they were server second. <3

[DreXxiN]

How does this hold any value? I'm raiding in my LS. Not in with a FC.

What is stopping the TWO people not in our FC in our LS. From joining 1 week for a clear out, then leaving after being added and going back to our LS team. Absolutely nothing.

Then vice versa for Nos and Grade.

This is a good point and why I'm considering only qualifying specific linkshells that only raid in either/or of an FC/LS, and not both, as that makes you a resource to both competing for the same common goal. Lack of evidence becomes a bit of an issue, though.

[Berengaria]

What is stopping the TWO people not in our FC in our LS. From joining 1 week for a clear out, then leaving after being added and going back to our LS team. Absolutely nothing.

This is correct and would be considered a legitimate clear as long as they were in the FC at the time - based on progression standards since the beginning of the game and most any mmo you can find. The difference is that they would actually have to take the steps to leave their current FC and join another for the credit, instead of literally doing nothing and just being in the Linkshell. It's about commitment.

[shadowrogue]

ive know plenty of people who join an fc their friends start and enjoy the community but are in statics with other fc or ls but dont want to leave their current fc and doing this forces the people who care about being listed in a forum post to have to make a decision of either leaving their fc which they have been a part of for a long time to join their static fc or get kicked from a static due to being listed in progression? Those same people make a commitment to their group as you said with crafting, being on time for raids coming up with strategies all the same things an fc static does so as far as recruitment it seems more like extortion of either join our fc or find another static

[doa165]

This is correct and would be considered a legitimate clear as long as they were in the FC at the time - based on progression standards since the beginning of the game and most any mmo you can find. The difference is that they would actually have to take the steps to leave their current FC and join another for the credit, instead of literally doing nothing and just being in the Linkshell. It's about commitment.

this is literally the exact same circumstance you are suggesting would or "does" happen with a LS

[Logistical]

This is a good point and why I'm considering only qualifying specific linkshells that only raid in either/or of an FC/LS, and not both, as that makes you a resource to both competing for the same common goal. Lack of evidence becomes a bit of an issue, though.

We don't take resource from Nos. They don't take from us. Our GROUP works together as a whole and that is it. Nothing more nothing less. Our team is separate from our tag.

[Ashenami]

Drexxin, why are we allowing a thread to be made after receiving major advice from Quieren and Zachy Pillowbiter? Why don't they post something here?


Wait--- they are banned from the FFXIV forums. Why are people making an influence over a forum they are banned from?

[Berengaria]

this is literally the exact same circumstance you are suggesting would or "does" happen with a LS

The word "exact" implies "exact". In the example I gave it was not the exact same. Leaving an FC to join another is not the exact same thing as staying in one Linkshell and joining another Linkshell. You don't have to leave a Linkshell to join another one. An FC is more of a "physical" placeholder for your character since it prevents you from being in another one while inside of it, while a Linkshell is just a chatroom that you can have multiples of.

[Ashenami]

My posts are being ignored. Nice.

Football and league points are not valid. Football players are under a contract-- and even then, they can and have been traded or removed on a whim.


And with League... a couple of weeks ago C9's Hai had a collapsed lung, so CLG's LINK moved into the C9 house and also took Hai's place at All-Stars.