Archer infinite arrows and its role

[Warlyx]

what about mages? cast from afar too and dont waste consumables in order to.......

lets force mage to waste consumables for every spell , Black magic scroll x999 , White magic scroll x999 .....

and archers being somewhat OP isnt a good reason to force a class to pay...... because inst rangers fault , is SE fault

and no archer is going to "unload" 4 arrows before the Tank gets some agro ......

if u are talking about solo...........who cares?


@richard "Or better yet lets go into real life military situations." ..... RL card i see......

"Since the dawn of time man has had to craft his own ammunition. It will be that way for hundreds of years to come."

NOT applicable to a videogame if the developers WANT TO , is a fantasy world.......if u can get raised , u can cast fire , ice electric spells...... why u cant have a infinite "magic" quiver?

there are lots of RPGs with archers and nearly all of them have infinite arrows !

FPS <> MMORPG having infinte bullets in a FPS kills the inmersion (if its RL based, because there are FPS with "future weapons" that have infinite charges)

are u all carpenters?

[Physic]

what about mages? cast from afar too and dont waste consumables in order to.......

lets force mage to waste consumables for everyspell caster , Black magic scroll x999 , White magic scroll x999 .....

anyway with FFXIV multiclass system huh?

and archers being somewhat OP isnt a good reason to force a class to pay...... because inst rangers fault , is SE fault

mages have a resource management with spells, and their darts do very little dmg. Mana is ammunition, if you want to make infinite arrows with mana as a resource management, that could work.

their OPness isnt the point, its the basic advantages and disadvantages of ranged attacking. IRL and in game, one of the big advantages to a melee weapon is, it doesnt run out. the disadvantage to using rocks, arrows or bullets is that you have a finite amount of attacks, the advantage is being able to attack from relative safety, and it is safety, even with monsters with ranged attacks, their real dangerous skills are thier TP skills.

as for unloading 4 attacks without getting agro, its very easy really. multishot is 3 arrows, the way taunt/voke/etc work is it makes it so the enemy cannot attack someone for a time. Also with buffs being large hate, it is pretty easy for a coordinated tank effort to hold hate even past the intial 4 arrow rush, into the 4 arrow+ WS rush.
Also since fleet of the foot gives you greater run speed than 90% of monsters, you still are never in danger of being weapon skilled, unless you decide to risk it for more damage.

there is no reason you should be able to any type of decent damage from the relative safety of range, without any resource management. unless they want to heavily nerf your damage, so that the advantage of being ranged is just that you take less damage.

[Warlyx]

mages have a resource management with spells, and their darts do very little dmg. Mana is ammunition, if you want to make infinite arrows with mana as a resource management, that could work.

their OPness isnt the point, its the basic advantages and disadvantages of ranged attacking. IRL and in game, one of the big advantages to a melee weapon is, it doesnt run out. the disadvantage to using rocks, arrows or bullets is that you have a finite amount of attacks, the advantage is being able to attack from relative safety, and it is safety, even with monsters with ranged attacks, their real dangerous skills are thier TP skills.

as for unloading 4 attacks without getting agro, its very easy really. multishot is 3 arrows, the way taunt/voke/etc work is it makes it so the enemy cannot attack someone for a time. Also with buffs being large hate, it is pretty easy for a coordinated tank effort to hold hate even past the intial 4 arrow rush, into the 4 arrow+ WS rush.
Also since fleet of the foot gives you greater run speed than 90% of monsters, you still are never in danger of being weapon skilled, unless you decide to risk it for more damage.

there is no reason you should be able to any type of decent damage from the relative safety of range, without any resource management. unless they want to heavily nerf your damage, so that the advantage of being ranged is just that you take less damage.

so u are ok if Rngs are the best DD ingame , because they pay for arrrows?

that isnt worked for FFXI rangers :P (i took a while but....)

Consumables are "ok" dont get me wrong , but the problem is having to rely on a craft in order to fullfill your class to 100%

or u can buy lvl 1 arrows.........................

[Richard]

so u are ok if Rngs are the best DD ingame , because they pay for arrrows?

that isnt worked for FFXI rangers :P (i took a while but....)

Consumables are "ok" dont get me wrong , but the problem is having to rely on a craft in order to fullfill your class to 100%

or u can buy lvl 1 arrows.........................

you're still equating buying mats to be the most OP in the game? have you ever played THM in current "endgame" content? THM > ARC DPS overtime. Guess what...THM uses mana for it's DPS. Just like ARC uses arrows. It's always equivalent exchange. You don't have to rely on a craft to fulfill your ARC to 100%. My CRP is R23 and I don't plan on touching it for a while. I go out and farm Vultures and Arihmans and Silver and Cedar for my Silver Arrows for maybe an hour and I have enough stacks to last me over a month.

and HOLY CRAP YOUR ARC is R25. Why are you posting here? You should be using Warped Arrows until R50 regardless. ofc you wouldn't know that THM > ARC or what time it really takes to get "good" arrows at higher levels. Just go buy your warped arrows and get off the forums and go level.

[Warlyx]

you're still equating buying mats to be the most OP in the game? have you ever played THM in current "endgame" content? THM > ARC DPS overtime. Guess what...THM uses mana for it's DPS. Just like ARC uses arrows. It's always equivalent exchange. You don't have to rely on a craft to fulfill your ARC to 100%. My CRP is R23 and I don't plan on touching it for a while. I go out and farm Vultures and Arihmans and Silver and Cedar for my Silver Arrows for maybe an hour and I have enough stacks to last me over a month.

and HOLY CRAP YOUR ARC is R25. Why are you posting here? You should be using Warped Arrows until R50 regardless. ofc you wouldn't know that THM > ARC or what time it really takes to get "good" arrows at higher levels. Just go buy your warped arrows and get off the forums and go level.

holy crap!!!!! low lvl ppl cant have opinions in this forum!!!!!!

u bringed the RL card (rofl @ RL military situations) before ,and now u bring the Low lvl ?

WHY IM POSTING HERE? who are u to ask me that ? .....no1

enough already

[Physic]

so u are ok if Rngs are the best DD ingame , because they pay for arrrows?

that isnt worked for FFXI rangers :P (i took a while but....)

Consumables are "ok" dont get me wrong , but the problem is having to rely on a craft in order to fullfill your class to 100%

or u can buy lvl 1 arrows.........................

no i dont think dps should equal cost, i said they pay for being able to attack from safety, archer is probably the safest dps in the game, maybe thaum, but since thaum depends on mana, and has shorter range, and casting times, its hard to say