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  1. #71
    Player
    Yurimi's Avatar
    登録日
    2012/04/23
    投稿
    661
    Character
    Nixi Sarcia
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    占星術師 Lv 70
    Quote 引用元:Bizniztyme 投稿を閲覧
    I remember the days when people actually work together to figure out a fight as a group instead of watching you tube videos. Sad times, sad times.
    Do you remember a time when you were in college and had 12-14hrs a day to play and wiping to something for 8hrs was no issue instead of working full time with a social life and only playing a couple hours a night a couple nights a week... Pepperidge farm remembers.

    Seriously though if you want to learn as you go that's fine but if you are going that route don't ask for any info because you are no longer going in blind to learn on your own you are going in lazy.
    (13)

  2. #72
    Player
    ofTheMoores's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/05/20
    投稿
    54
    Character
    Sakara Moore
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    槍術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:dannycookies 投稿を閲覧
    If you're not going to make the effort to watch a video or read a guide, why should your group make the effort to explain the mechanics?
    I have to agree with this. If I know what dungeon I'm going in, I damn sure try to find a video on it. I'm not that good that I don't need some prep.
    (2)

  3. #73
    Player
    Odett's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/11/16
    投稿
    636
    Character
    Odett Telos
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    暗黒騎士 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:Kusanagi7 投稿を閲覧
    It's good to know that there are decent people who will take a few minutes to explain things to a first timer rather than use the watch a video solution.
    The problem with this is that explaining fights to people isn't a one-time thing. I'll explain a fight to people, and 7 wipes later, after the duty is abandoned, you learned from your deaths and maybe you'll get it right the next time you queue up. After 5 more queues from me and encountering the same situation every time, you can see how this might be incredibly frustrating. You are asking other players to do what you could have done on your own time, and that is lazy, no matter how you look at it.
    (3)

  4. #74
    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/08
    投稿
    343
    Character
    Solo Playa
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    園芸師 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Yurimi 投稿を閲覧
    Do you remember a time when you were in college and had 12-14hrs a day to play and wiping to something for 8hrs was no issue instead of working full time with a social life and only playing a couple hours a night a couple nights a week... Pepperidge farm remembers.

    Seriously though if you want to learn as you go that's fine but if you are going that route don't ask for any info because you are no longer going in blind to learn on your own you are going in lazy.
    I don't expect anyone to explain anything to me. I couldn't care any less about wipes. It's a freaking game. Chill out yo. My point stands. Sad sad times indeed.
    (5)
    2014/05/21 22:54; Bizniztyme が最後に編集

  5. #75
    Player
    xenosuke1's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/23
    Location
    ul'dah
    投稿
    106
    Character
    Blanche Ronfhildstine
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    剣術士 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:dannycookies 投稿を閲覧
    If you're not going to make the effort to watch a video or read a guide, why should your group make the effort to explain the mechanics?
    cause maybe its the nice thing to do, this is why this community is volatile, no one is willing to help. some ppl may not have the chance to go watch a video shit happens. this is why there is less and lees ppl who know how to do certain fights no one is willing to giv a helpin hand, and i already know some1 is gunna reply with the asinine statement well if i had to learn the hard way why shouldnt they. ppl learn differently ppl play differently. self entitlement is very unbecoming
    (8)
    2014/05/21 23:01; xenosuke1 が最後に編集

  6. #76
    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/08
    投稿
    343
    Character
    Solo Playa
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    園芸師 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:xenosuke1 投稿を閲覧
    cause maybe its the nice thing to do, this is why this community is volatile, no one is willing to help.
    Right? They play this GAME like their life depended on it or something. lol Raging just because they didn't get their precious shiny.
    (6)
    2014/05/21 23:01; Bizniztyme が最後に編集

  7. #77
    Player
    KokonoeAiyoko's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/08/24
    投稿
    661
    Character
    Pomf-pomf Footahnaree
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    学者 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:AiChyan 投稿を閲覧
    Genuine question, why didn't you look it up?
    If it's needed to look up, why isn't it in the game?
    (8)

  8. #78
    Player
    Codek's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/09/02
    投稿
    511
    Character
    Dalek Codex
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    占星術師 Lv 60
    The Stages of an (New Age) EndGame MMO player:
    Day 1 (newbie) - "I don't like spoilers, I'll figure it out on my own
    Day 1.2 (2-hours later) - "The hell am I suppose to do?!? -> Youtube
    Day 2 (I got this guys) - "This should be easy"
    Day 2.2 (+1 Wisdom) - "I have much to learn"
    ...
    Day 7 (Kill group) - "That was easy"
    Day 8 (Elitist) - "You didn't look up the strat?!?"


    Basically, it's up to the players to find like minded others to raid with. If you get in a party and it turns out you're the only one not knowing the fight, then you're at fault. If your the only one knowing the fight then...well, sucks to be you. If it's split, then it's basically your standard PF group.

    This is why static groups tend to shine over the rest.
    (2)
    Always remember the Silver Rule:
    "Treat others as they treat you!" ...or something like that.

  9. #79
    Player
    Odett's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/11/16
    投稿
    636
    Character
    Odett Telos
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    暗黒騎士 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:Bizniztyme 投稿を閲覧
    Right? They play this GAME like their life depended on it or something. lol Raging just because they didn't get their precious shiny.
    Because I'm tired of wiping for 2 hours because of people like you
    (0)

  10. #80
    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
    登録日
    2011/03/08
    投稿
    343
    Character
    Solo Playa
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    園芸師 Lv 50
    Quote 引用元:Odett 投稿を閲覧
    Because I'm tired of wiping for 2 hours because of people like you
    My point confirmed AGAIN. Oh the rage in peeps. Too funny.
    (10)

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