What's with the new players today?

[Kaskel2000]

This sort of thing happened to me last night. I'm relatively new since I started with the final ps4 beta but I've gotten myself up to ilevel 90. Last night after helping fc mates I thought I'd give myself a challenge and queue for two coil turns, ultima hm and Garuda ex. Ended up getting into Garuda of which I was new to and learning the basics. After we wipe two times (as there were a few new people) one of the vets very politely asks if one of the tanks is off tank and that he should try and do something with the adds (ultra polite). Tank turns round and tells him to F off and then sits at the back and refuses to continue. So childish.

[Harmonium]

+1 to the op.

I would say something else.

Why every dragoon i meet spam ring of thorn ( power 100 ).

Why they spam this ? They got an another aoe ( pointe du destin ) power 170.

I don't know the english name.

[gornotck]

+1 to the op.

I would say something else.

Why every dragoon i meet spam ring of thorn ( power 100 ).

Why they spam this ? They got an another aoe ( pointe du destin ) power 170.

I don't know the english name.

Ring of Thorns is 100(150 combo) in a circle around you.
Doom Spike is 160 straight in front of you.

[Harmonium]

Ring of Thorns is 100(150 combo) in a circle around you.
Doom Spike is 160 straight in front of you.

Yes but they don't do a combo they spam it.

Better spam doom spike with two buff for great damage.

[zemogFC]

+1 to the op.

I would say something else.

Why every dragoon i meet spam ring of thorn ( power 100 ).

Why they spam this ? They got an another aoe ( pointe du destin ) power 170.

I don't know the english name.

It just depends on how the mobs are stacked up.
The fact that Doom Spike drains TP fast is the probable reason.
Alternating between Heavy Thrust and RoT lets us stay in the fight longer.

Honestly, most people just suck.

[Harmonium]

Me when i play dragoon i use the blood for blood, then the monk skill for up my critical hit. Then i place myself in a good position to have all the mob on the line and i spam doom spike and a motivation for spam it more. I attack at 650 - 800.

When i see other dragoon who allway spam ring of thorn and do 200 damage. They should be kicked from the dungeon how can we be so useless ? They only need read their skill

[Zakalwe]

Some of the non-aggroing, riot-blade-only tanks you run across in low-level dungeons seem to be rmt bots. I've also seen that bot program being used by a couple of PLDs atma farming in fates.

[Akujin]

Butthurt? Nah I dont even play call of duty, but I'm not naive or stupid to actually think or believe that all bad players come from CoD.

Did I say all bad players, or those with poor attitudes come directly from CoD? No, don't believe so, so don't put words in my mouth you pretentious twit.

The CoD reference was that, since you don't play I'll enlighten you, it's full of immature, trash-talking prepubescent kids who throw insults and 'your momma' etc crap all day long, but they also have their own private witch hunts for anyone who makes the slightest mistake. They don't learn, they have the mentality, which some people in XIV do as well (hence the reference) that they are and were always perfect gamers, never failed - or if they fail it's certainly not Their fault, and so begin the insults and backlashing that's so commonplace these days. So the CoD reference was not as a direct correlation of those players coming to XIV, because I seriously doubt many FPS players can even stomach MMOs, it's not to their pace, it's the mentality and immaturity that's become such an epidemic in the game currently.

[faris]

This, this, this thread forever. For multiple reasons.

1: Sastasha! a pugilist that at the start of duty, didn't wait for any buffs. ran into the first pack mob while the tank was standing there. Died. came back to the start. Did the same thing again, died. This went on for (no lie) 5 times before I typed "you might want to wait for the tank." It was ignored, he did the same thing five more times. Then I left.

2: Sastasha! an arcanist that only used ruin, and ran into every mob that could be avoided there was, without a carbuncle of any type even there. She died a lot. Ignored party chat.

3: Sastasha, Brayflox, Haukke, Copperbell! Tanks that don't use enmity combos or flash, just stand there, auto attacking, and using fast blade. (Not comboing anything to it.)

4: Sastasha! A tank that bombed it through the first pack mob, ignoring them, letting them all jump on the conj that healed her, and continuing running without a care for everyone else being shanked. Did the same to the second. Ignored them. Died. Did the same thing again and again. Ignored party chat.

5: Haukke! A conj that cast cure, cast cure, cast cure, cast cure, cast cure, endlessly on the tank, even at full health. No protect. No nothing. Just cure. when stuff jumped on us, then he sprinted away leaving us to die. Ignored party chat.

6: Brayflox! A tank (perhaps with a ps4 keypad!) that whined at me endlessly for running ahead of her while between packs. I didn't engage them, didn't aggro. Just looked at them. She insisted on standing stock still with everyone behind her character for her cooldowns. I told her her cooldowns will still run while she's moving, got whined at. She then has a go at me for taking hate from her on mnk, even though I'm attacking the same thing she is, and she's got it's butt pointed to the wall so my combos are pretty dire because I can't proc a crit with bootshine, having to do nothing but flank. I inform her of this, and question how exactly I'm able to take hate off her. I also mention her kill order is ridiculous, she's more than happy to sit in 2x eft aoes while attacking a pugil. She whines. Furthermore, her smn friend is a complete idiot without ifrit out and only using ruin. We get to aiatar and she dies, repeatedly, because she can't dodge. then whines at the sch for doting even though the sch is healing perfectly fine, it's her not dodging which is getting her killed. Finally, she eats dirt again, I tank the thing on monk, and me and the sch clear it. she then leaves after swearing at us, and grabbing the tank body.

7: Stone vigil! Somehow, we die to the first trash mob because the tank runs on ahead without waiting for buffs, and he has no kill order at all. He's also very squishy, I have more HP than him on monk and I'm pure STR, I know things are bad. the whm questions what the hell he's doing, and he blames the whm saying "you can't heal" when he doesn't use any kind of enmity moves and loses hate on all 3 mobs at one cure - then doesn't help the whm, just stands there, like a moron, wondering where the hell rage of halone is. Second trash pack! He provokes the aevis from the others, then runs into them all, to the main room, with 2 patrolling aevises, two dragonflies, and a lizard. I grab the aevis on the whm's butt and manage to kill it, before biting it thanks to the tank not being able to keep hate on rocksplitter of all things. everyone else dies. I ask him what he's even doing, and he responds "the healer can't keep up with heals" again. I tell him he needs a kill order, to take out priority things, like aevises, first, and he says he doesn't need one he's playing the way he wants blah blah blah then says he's reported me for being abusive. I laugh at him, and inform him someone has to be abusive in order to get a wristslap for that, and then say he's likely to get a suspension if he reports absolutely everyone that says he's an awful tank he must encounter a day. then I leave. I'd sooner bite a penalty than spend 70 minutes dying and having to requeue anyway.

....all of these were new players, and all happened in the past week.

I'm giving it a long while before I level any DoW alternate classes, at least until they've cleared off. 30 minute waits for DPS on DF and then an unplayable party isn't fun.

[Noahlimits]

Did I say all bad players, or those with poor attitudes come directly from CoD? No, don't believe so, so don't put words in my mouth you pretentious twit.

The CoD reference was that, since you don't play I'll enlighten you, it's full of immature, trash-talking prepubescent kids who throw insults and 'your momma' etc crap all day long, but they also have their own private witch hunts for anyone who makes the slightest mistake. They don't learn, they have the mentality, which some people in XIV do as well (hence the reference) that they are and were always perfect gamers, never failed - or if they fail it's certainly not Their fault, and so begin the insults and backlashing that's so commonplace these days.

You way you name call, you don't sound much better than the COD people you're describing.