20% Coil Buff Not Being Implemented???

[Doki]

I'm not really that bothered about the reasoning behind the lack of further echo. I am however bothered that, once again it's taken way too long to communicate things to the players. If you're going to NOT do something you have on a freaking calendar, I imagine you knew about it BEFORE that date came & went. People do plan around announced changes and this goes against planning.

[SDaemon]

I'm not really that bothered about the reasoning behind the lack of further echo. I am however bothered that, once again it's taken way too long to communicate things to the players. If you're going to NOT do something you have on a freaking calendar, I imagine you knew about it BEFORE that date came & went. People do plan around announced changes and this goes against planning.

SE is horrible about timely information. Just something I've gotten use to.

[Spellbinder]

SE is horrible about timely information. Just something I've gotten use to.

Or it could be that everyone forgot when they mentioned that scheduling for increasing the Echo may change depending on overall progress in the binding coil.

Only problem with this is that just like Yoshi P said he doesn't want to allow "ninja updates" to happen in this game, this situation has basically turned into that. I don't really care about this specific case that much, but for future reference SE, if you say you're going to do something, announce it when you change your mind.

As I said above.

Source: Letter from the Producer LIVE (found the proper image)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry-(04-09-2014)
http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/9a2...74ed54f_20.png

* Implementation of the Echo buff and its effects may change depending on overall player progression and maintenance schedules.
※超える力のかかるタイミングや効果量は、全体的なクリア状況やメンテナンスのタイミングによって変動する場合があります。

[SDaemon]

Or it could be that everyone forgot when they mentioned that scheduling for increasing the Echo may change depending on overall progress in the binding coil.



As I said above.

Source: Letter from the Producer LIVE (found the proper image)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry-(04-09-2014)
http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/9a2...74ed54f_20.png

* Implementation of the Echo buff and its effects may change depending on overall player progression and maintenance schedules.
※超える力のかかるタイミングや効果量は、全体的なクリア状況やメンテナンスのタイミングによって変動する場合があります。

The fact that the schedule changed isn't the issue. It is that they neglected to relay the fact that it did. Totally different situation.

[abzoluut]

* Implementation of the Echo buff and its effects may change depending on overall player progression

So when they decide to not change it to 20%, they need to tell us they aren't. Thát's the point here.

If we would go the the movies tomorrow and I say I might change my mind for whatever reason and not go. When I don't contact you the next day, you just assume I changed my mind? Good for you. Unfortunately there are loads of people who like to know stuff. It's called communication.

[Spellbinder]

So when they decide to not change it to 20%, they need to tell us they aren't. Thát's the point here.

If we would go the the movies tomorrow and I say I might change my mind for whatever reason and not go. When I don't contact you the next day, you just assume I changed my mind? Good for you. Unfortunately there are loads of people who like to know stuff. It's called communication.

You may not have changed your mind, but if I'm waiting at the theatre, the show starts in 5 minutes, and you haven't contacted me, obviously something has happened.

When you have users who think like this.

SE is horrible about timely information. Just something I've gotten use to.

Perhaps it would be best to make an educated guess based on information already presented. After all, the communication is so untimely, isn't it?

[necrosis]

Or it could be that everyone forgot when they mentioned that scheduling for increasing the Echo may change depending on overall progress in the binding coil.



As I said above.

Source: Letter from the Producer LIVE (found the proper image)
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry-(04-09-2014)
http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/9a2...74ed54f_20.png

* Implementation of the Echo buff and its effects may change depending on overall player progression and maintenance schedules.
※超える力のかかるタイミングや効果量は、全体的なクリア状況やメンテナンスのタイミングによって変動する場合があります。

Yes it may change. But that does not let them off the hook about taking forever to say there was a change.

Perhaps it would be best to make an educated guess based on information already presented. After all, the communication is so untimely, isn't it?

SE? Educated guess? You obviously have not been dealing with them long. IE: You never played FFXI for many years.

The only predictable thing SE does is no information (ninja changes), late information, confusing information (VERY poorly translated).

On the topic of poorly translated I remember when the player base caught on and started translating the German/French changelogs to English and getting COMPLETELY DIFFERENT or BETTER EXPLAINED things than the 'official' English changelog.

[Camate]

Greetings,

I'm not really that bothered about the reasoning behind the lack of further echo. I am however bothered that, once again it's taken way too long to communicate things to the players.

When it comes to how and where we release information, including that which comes from Letter from the Producer and Letter from the Producer LIVE, we’ll be making efforts to improve how we communicate moving forward, and we apologize for any misunderstandings that may have arisen this time.

In regards to future announcements, if there are aspects that may give rise to misunderstandings like the present case, we’ll be sure to make corrections and give supplemental information; however, we also feel that it would be more appropriate to execute our plans at the time we communicate when this is not the case.

[Barboron]

Greetings,



When it comes to how and where we release information, including that which comes from Letter from the Producer and Letter from the Producer LIVE, we’ll be making efforts to improve how we communicate moving forward, and we apologize for any misunderstandings that may have arisen this time.

In regards to future announcements, if there are aspects that may give rise to misunderstandings like the present case, we’ll be sure to make corrections and give supplemental information; however, we also feel that it would be more appropriate to execute our plans at the time we communicate when this is not the case.

It's actually understandable that you guys didn't communicate straight away and I think a lot of people shouldn't make it into as big a deal as it seems. After all, you are gathering and studying data and making adjustments as you see fit. While these adjustments might not seem necessary, it's clear the impact is being judged.


All the same, even just a less formal shout out, tweet, or some quick method to say something like:

"Echo buff isn't being increased due to number of players now progressing through the content."

In the end, I appreciate the work and effort put in. Keep it up guys!

[TeganLaron]

I'm not really that bothered about the reasoning behind the lack of further echo. I am however bothered that, once again it's taken way too long to communicate things to the players. If you're going to NOT do something you have on a freaking calendar, I imagine you knew about it BEFORE that date came & went. People do plan around announced changes and this goes against planning.

Agreed. Especially as the majority of players don't even check the forums, so even now there will be people who do not know this.