WAR Adjustments

[Reynhart]

By that logic, we should take away pld's riot combo since it restores the resource they use for aoe hate.

I didn't know PLD had a FREE skill that INSTANTLY restore 40% of their max MP.

And it seems like a lot of people forget that Holmgang can be used TWICE more than Hallowed Ground. If the duration was the same, PLD's trademark invicible skill would just be a lessen WAR one. No Thanks.
You can also learn how to time holmgang properly, or refrain your WS so that you can pop Inner Beast precisely when you need it...in short, know how to play the job.

[Sibyll]

I didn't know PLD had a FREE skill that INSTANTLY restore 40% of their max MP.

And it seems like a lot of people forget that Holmgang can be used TWICE more than Hallowed Ground. If the duration was the same, PLD's trademark invicible skill would just be a lessen WAR one. No Thanks.
You can also learn how to time holmgang properly, or refrain your WS so that you can pop Inner Beast precisely when you need it...in short, know how to play the job.

Getting anything really useful out of Holmgang requires either precise coordination with your healers so that they don't drop a big heal right as you pop it or healers that aren't topping you off before spike damage. It's generally counter intuitive for a healer to not heal you when you are low to the point that you'd use Holmgang and healing you for a big amount right as the tank pops Holmgang means it did nothing but bind you. This skill only functions as a defensive cool down if you take damage that would've killed you. Compare this to Hallowed Ground which is always a defensive cool down, unless you aren't being attacked.

Getting use out of Holmgang doesn't just involve knowing when to cast it, but also excellent coordination with your healers so that it actually functions like a defensive CD.

[Kitru]

And it seems like a lot of people forget that Holmgang can be used TWICE more than Hallowed Ground. If the duration was the same, PLD's trademark invicible skill would just be a lessen WAR one. No Thanks.

Being immune to all damage is quite a bit different than not dying. Magnitude of effect plays a very important part in the balancing process, which you seem to be forgetting here. Even if Holmgang's duration was increased, HG would still be better as an uber-CD since you can use it when you're about to take a crapton of damage as opposed to when you're low on hp and about to take a crapton of damage.

[Coth_X]

I didn't know PLD had a FREE skill that INSTANTLY restore 40% of their max MP.

Well, PLD doesn't have to burn their tp to do aoe enmity and last I checked my pld, had like 1500 mp or something like that.

I don't get tp starved anymore, but I still would rather have lancer invigorate and feint rather than second wind and featherfoot. I still don't get how one of 2 tanks in the game that can only parry, doesn't get the improved parry cross class skill :/