ilvl Requirement "The Broken System"

[Malamasala]

Personally I've had a more real situation happen. As a SMN I've lost gear points changing to more INT focus than my Arcanist MND items.

I don't know why SE wants to let me into higher dungeons as gimp DD, but that is how they designed it. Sadly I'm a good guy so I wear the INT gear on SMN and lose gear score.

[LunarEmerald]

I believe it should be calculated this way

weapon: 30% (20%/10% for weapons with shields)
chest: 17%
legs: 17%
feet: 6%
hands: 6%
head: 6%
belt: 3%
neck: 3%
earrings: 3%
wrist: 3%
ring: 3%
ring: 3%

That way all accessories only make up 15% of your total ilevel instead of 41%

[kidvideo]

By the time we get to the end of 4th coil... we'll all still be character level 50, with item level 400. Ridic.

[waldo]

This is a non issue because the almost every player does not try to enter dungeons with level 10 weapons.

Right or wrong, I USED to wear low level rings, ect to intentionally drop ilvl in roulette to avoid the higher ilvl requirement for harder dungeons, namely pharos Sirius pre-nerf, so I could get the same reward for less hassle with random people that'd always mess those instances up and waste my time.

I will admit, anytime a person can intentionally drop their ilvl to avoid content, that matching system is probably broken. I'm not proud I circumvented these dungeons I hated, but I'd probably do it again in the future if I felt the need. If I can run BF HM, halati HM, or lost city in 20 minutes with a lower ilvl for the same rewards for harder, newer content that takes 45 minutes, I'm sure I'm going to intentionally drop my ilvl to avoid the 45 minute new content. Of course, I change back to my higher ilvl gear once I get inside the instance.

[necrosis]

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Holy crap I never even thought of this.

I just never unlocked PS till I was *FORCED* to in 2.2 in order to even do that roulette set.

Still I think the bigger problem is SE setting the ilvl requirements for dungeons pathetically low. Borderline impossibly low.

[waldo]

Holy crap I never even thought of this.

I just never unlocked PS till I was *FORCED* to in 2.2 in order to even do that roulette set.

Still I think the bigger problem is SE setting the ilvl requirements for dungeons pathetically low. Borderline impossibly low.

Have I opened a can of worms here? Oh noes!!!
PS: I wouldn't fault anyone for doing it.

[necrosis]

Have I opened a can of worms here? Oh noes!!!
PS: I wouldn't fault anyone for doing it.

Eh PS isnt that big a deal nor are the other (Hard) dungeons. But yeah ever once in a while Ill get copperbell or mannor hard with DPS no where near geared for the task.

[Kagoma]

Eh PS isnt that big a deal nor are the other (Hard) dungeons. But yeah ever once in a while Ill get copperbell or mannor hard with DPS no where near geared for the task.

I have had this happen to me once or twice. Tanks love it when they are the top of the dps in a dungeon , and did > then 50% of the damage to mobs and bosses, with the healer pulling a close second.

We had to get a bit creative doing copperbell hard the other day, took us 5 trys but some how me managed to hit the DPS requirements and killed it before the crystals ran out.

[Duuude007]

Let's add a little reality to this perspective:

90 Neck Only available from SECOND Coil. With i90 or higher requirements.
90 Ear-- Only available by defeating Titan EX or from Coil. Both with i70 or higher requirements.
90 Waist-- Craftable. Very expensive. Prohibitively expensive for someone hitting their first lv 50 class.
90 Wrist-- Only available by defeating Ifrit EX or from Coil. Both with i70 or higher requirements.
90 Ring1-- Easiest to earn costs 385 Mythology, very slow to earn unless already doing Hard mode dungeons. One ideal per class type.
90 Ring2--Ideal 2nd ring only available by defeating Garuda EX or from Coil. Both with i70 or higher requirements.

What does this mean?

Only 3 items of your list of i90's can even be cheated on without having ever stepped foot into a hard mode dungeon.

Lets re-tally your numbers then, based on what accessories ARE accessible, under a best-case scenario.

10 Weapon
10 Head
10 Body 70 Neck -crafted via old philo mats x9
10 Hands 70 Ear -crafted via old philo mats x9
90 Waist 70 Wrist -crafted via old philo mats x9
10 Legs 90 Ring1
10 Feet 90 Ring2
Average ilvl 45

So. Too low for HM,CT, Coil. Too low for even WP or AK.

Sure, if you made ALL the other gear i20, you would barely qualify as i50, but would be unable to function.

At any rate, why someone would spend SO much gil on attaining those accessories (as they couldnt realistically be earned by farming) ...without putting any consideration into their core gear, is beyond my comprehension.

...and this silly way of circumventing game mechanics is so unusual that VERY few would even consider it. By then one should at LEAST have the AF sets, which is considered low-end acceptable in lv 50 dungeons.

If I walk into a HM dungeon and see a tank with sub 3000 hp, I will be asking questions, and if unsatisfied, I will leave.

TL; DR ---Players have standards that make your example of cheating the system irrelevant.

[Osha_Sohma]

If someone has a level 50 job they can farm myth and kit their alt job out in level 90 accessories (they're cheap) if they want. I don't know why they would do so unless trolling, but there you are.