PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[Snorgrind]

Don't want to do titan? Queue up and hit the win button when you get in! Would be the exact same thing as win-trading.

ehm.... this exists. Its called queue for titan right after daily reset, you can jump down and let others carry you cuz its full of overgeared players. Is it called exploit too ?

[Azurymber]

ehm.... this exists. Its called queue for titan right after daily reset, you can jump down and let others carry you cuz its full of overgeared players. Is it called exploit too ?

pretty sure entering a dungeon and then insta-dying is considered greifing, and one of the reasons vote-kick was implemented.

[Namasu]

You aren't getting free exp for doing nothing. You have to actually kill things (play the game). And the fact that they let parties leave b4 15min with no penalty is probably because they intended ppl to level that way.

You can get exp for doing nothing in parties and let people power level you.

you actually have to kill people in win-trade, if you are going to use the argument that killing things = play the game.

Also if you say so and so system allow party to do so and so thing without penalty because they intended it to be that way then you are basically justifying wintrading yourself.

[Azurymber]

You can get exp for doing nothing in parties and let people power level you.

you actually have to kill people in win-trade, if you are going to use the argument that killing things = play the game.

Also if you say so and so system allow party to do so and so thing without penalty because they intended it to be that way then you are basically justifying wintrading yourself.

So basically you are saying
People should wintrade (why do pvp if it takes a month vs 4 days of wintrading?)
People should powerlevel (why kill anything if you can pay someone else to do it for you)
People should insta-die on titan and get carried (why try if people can just carry you)

If your attitude is take shortcuts where you do nothing to get to max rank/level whats the point of this being an MMO? Why not just go do similarly repetitive factory work? Arguing that abusing a system by ignoring an entire aspect of a game due to an instant-gratification workaround kind of delegitimizes the whole idea of a game. Why bother with any of this stuff. we should get access to all gear, beat bosses with a button, etc.

Why play a game if all you will do is basically "skip all the content" to get ahead so you can brag about the cool gear you have. Why not just download a chat client like IMVU.

[MakoRaiju]

You can get exp for doing nothing in parties and let people power level you.

you actually have to kill people in win-trade, if you are going to use the argument that killing things = play the game.

Also if you say so and so system allow party to do so and so thing without penalty because they intended it to be that way then you are basically justifying wintrading yourself.

Whats your point here actually? Would you like to lead a party consisting of players that dont do what their supposed to do, knowingly that they are just leeching off on purpose? or would you.. boot them perhaps?

And yes, you have to kill other players to win trade, same way as you have to kill monsters for xp or loot or other players for pvp, but they actually FIGHTS back. Killing 4 other players that was arranged to be naked, stand still, dance around or dont resist at all for this round or that round, would you call that to play the game?

Dont voice your opinion if you have the wrong idea of what win-trading is. Arranging to face each other grps in 4v4 is ok when both teams actually try to win against each other, battling it out, like the system is "supposed" to be used. But rigged matches on which team to win on what turn is what i would call exploiting the system as it is, aka win-trading, which is not how you are supposed to be playing the game.

[Mardel]

It isn't win-trading... it is like T3 in coil, TIME ATTACK! Who can kill the other team fastest if they just stand still!

[Tyrial]

It isn't win-trading... it is like T3 in coil, TIME ATTACK! Who can kill the other team fastest if they just stand still!

Best answer in the whole thread XD

[LeonRegulus]

It's astonishing how bold-faced and illogical some of the people in this thread are defending wintrading. Lie to yourselves all you'd like, but the truth is you're only attempting to make it seem like the lousy way you're doing things is the intentional way to level. If SE wanted this, they would have just handed us the gear. Anyone who claims otherwise is just deluding themselves.

There's no reason for it other than people are lazy. People who only want it for vanity, should still have to go the correct channels to get it. People who are too lazy and just want the gear to have an advantage over others.

Just because the system allows it, doesn't mean that it's "Working as intended". How can you honestly claim that SE wanted us to take turns beating on each other in order to level up?

The same people are probably the ones that buy gil, use bots, and all around just suck as players in general.

tl;dr Stop being bad, and do things legit.

[Namasu]

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Because people bought the game and paid subscriptions just like you and they can and will do whatever they want within the limit of the game until the dev come out and say no?

I could care less what you think of my attitude, but if you really care about me that much then I'll let you know that I trade pvp wins and trade powerlevel with friends. Unfortunately the only thing I didn't get to do is dying on titan to get carried.

[Alistaire]

That's not unfortunate. Just sayin.