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    Brannigan's Avatar
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    Will Brannigan
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Sword Oath is good, it just shouldn't really take an ability slot. Or, rather, Shield Oath shouldn't exist and the paladin soul crystal should give -20% damage taken, -20% damage dealt, and 2x enmity, with Sword Oath removing those effects. Basically it just kind of sucks to give a class 2 semi-passive stances out of its 5 total job abilities, especially considering how limited in usefulness some other gladiator/paladin abilities are.

    They could scrap shield oath (or make sword/shield toggle each other with multiple presses) and give paladins a third hit to the riot blade combo in its place.

    Back on topic, though, I think Warrior's in a pretty good place right now. Its worst (native) skills are probably Foresight and Bloodbath, and Foresight honestly isn't as terrible as people seem to think. Holmgang, I think, is useful enough to justify its existence. At least if Cover and Tempered Will are useful enough to justify their existence, then Holmgang certainly is. It's definitely no Apocatastasis.
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    Last edited by Brannigan; 05-13-2014 at 08:11 PM.

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    Sibyll Belmont
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Fue View Post
    Wasted a skill on sword oath, what?
    Its the best stance for increasing dmg in the game. And its highly useful everytime you do a tank swap.
    I never said the skill was bad, I'm sure the numbers are available to prove the % DPS boost between Sword Oath Stance and No Stance. My point is that it feels like a filler skill that serves only to put non-tank stance Paladins on par with non-tank stance Warriors in terms of DPS output.

    Also, what percentage increase does Sword Oath provide over having no stance up at all. I can only seem to find comparisons between Sword Oath and Shield Oath when I'm actually curious between Sword Oath and No stance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    Back on topic, though, I think Warrior's in a pretty good place right now. Its worst (native) skills are probably Foresight and Bloodbath, and Foresight honestly isn't as terrible as people seem to think. Holmgang, I think, is useful enough to justify its existence. At least if Cover and Tempered Will are useful enough to justify their existence, then Holmgang certainly is. It's definitely no Apocatastasis.
    I agree it's overall a fine class. I think people view Foresight as being worse than it is because they try to use it like a Paladin tanking CD and it's not meant to be used that way. People have said this before, Warrior/Marauder CDs have low effects because they are meant to be used more frequently thanks to their lower CDs.

    Apocatastasis exists for the same reason Elemental Resist Materia exist. They forgot to take them out.
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