The Atma Stigma

[Galan]

How very self centered and egocentric defenders of this quest are. You are delusional if you think this is a real grind. I have done real grinds and they were way more interesting then this so called "grind". There is nothing challenging at all about farming fates. Just stating that you had to "manage" tp pools and such on low level fates is ludicrous.

You want to make a time sink fine, i don't mind but this time sink is beyond pathetic and boring and only services those that have too much time to play which includes myself. I have my animus and its absolutely NOTHING special. Totally not worth time spent and that was less then some cause i got "luckier" then some.

You can shout all you want about i did it the "work" so should you but if people get sick of stupid quests like this and quit playing, your so called work goes bye bye cause no players = no money = bye bye game.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

How very self centered and egocentric defenders of this quest are. You are delusional if you think this is a real grind. I have done real grinds and they were way more interesting then this so called "grind". There is nothing challenging at all about farming fates. Just stating that you had to "manage" tp pools and such on low level fates is ludicrous.

Same could be said about those who bash it. Especially those who completed it and say it "wasn't worth their time." If it wasn't then why did you do it?

[Duuude007]

Every time we failed at getting a mount or Heart of Crags in Titan EX, it's because RNG.
Every time I failed to win roll the gear I wanted in Turn 6, it's because RNG.
Every time I failed to win roll on Unidentified Allagan Tomestone or Oil of Time in Turn 7, it's because RNG.
Every time I failed to win roll on Sand of Time in Turn 8, it's because RNG.
Every time we fail to get White Raven Armor Fragment in Turn 9, it's because RNG.

Fixed. Bad examples are bad.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I wonder how one would try to show these concepts as fun to someone who never played an MMO before

[Duuude007]

I wonder how one would try to show these concepts as fun to someone who never played an MMO before

By not trying to. They will decide what is fun to them, and then do that. It is not our place to define for others what should be fun.

[Vesuvias]

By not trying to. They will decide what is fun to them, and then do that. It is not our place to define for others what should be fun.

then why are you and those who defend this quest saying it is awesome and should stay the same so you can have some sort of elitist show of "skill" (though most of the guys i know in game are just like galan and think it was a total wast of time)

[Duuude007]

then why are you and those who defend this quest saying it is awesome and should stay the same so you can have some sort of elitist show of "skill" (though most of the guys i know in game are just like galan and think it was a total wast of time)

If people consider it as fun, then did you ever consider that it has a valid place in the game? I don't consider pvp fun, but that doesnt mean I am the best person to suggest its removal or complete overhaul. Yet here you are, trying to do the same to this.

This is fun for me and clearly many others, and you want to dictate to me that it is not fun and therefore they should change it to cater to your wants instead of our's?

[Kabooa]

It's just too bad your whole post was ruined by this one statement. Why worry about what everyone else has? Why not just be happy with what YOU have?

You're making an assumption here.

But it wouldn't be the first time, so no one's surprised.

[Kabooa]

Fixed. Bad examples are bad.

It really isn't.

Atma is a progression.

Getting a boss down is a process of progression.

One you control. The other you don't.

[Duuude007]

It really isn't.

Getting the Atma is a progression.

Getting a specific boss drop to fall in your lap is a progression.

Neither you fully control.

Now this I can agree with. Fixed again.