Let's talk about PvP

[Eekiki]

Great, but how often will you replay the same campaign before you get bored as opposed to multiplayer where you can go against real people instead of the AI and maps you've completely memorized? The difference is that the single-player experience in ANY game will be LIMITED while the multiplayer experience is NOT.

That's a very good point, but why play BioShock 2 or F.3.A.R.'s multiplayer, when you could play Team Fortress 2 or Counter Strike? Fantastic multiplayer FPS's with no single-player campaign. Remember Counter-Strike: Condition Zero? A single-player campaign for Counter Strike. And it sucked.

Likewise, you have Guild Wars, an online RPG with a heavy focus on PvP. And it's great. And I think Guild Wars 2 is going to suck, because they're trying to do too much at once.

This is a general philosophy I've been thinking of lately. I think a lot of things in this world are getting too complicated. Things need to be simplified. That's why I threw away my ridiculous 5 blade fusion razor and bought a good double-edged safety blade. Thanks to that I've got the best shave I've ever had.

[Demacia]

That's a very good point, but why play BioShock 2 or F.3.A.R.'s multiplayer, when you could play Team Fortress 2 or Counter Strike? Fantastic multiplayer FPS's with no single-player campaign. Remember Counter-Strike: Condition Zero? A single-player campaign for Counter Strike. And it sucked.

Likewise, you have Guild Wars, an online RPG with a heavy focus on PvP. And it's great. And I think Guild Wars 2 is going to suck, because they're trying to do too much at once.

This is a general philosophy I've been thinking of lately. I think a lot of things in this world are getting too complicated. Things need to be simplified. That's why I threw away my ridiculous 5 blade fusion razor and bought a good double-edged safety blade. Thanks to that I've got the best shave I've ever had.

Well, here's the thing and once again I'll be using FFXI as an example: I like FFXI as it's both visually appealing and the combat system, to me, is enjoyable. I like the job system, the variety that subjobs provide, and the unique aspects and abilities of all the different jobs and weapons. I played GW and WoW, but found them both boring, ugly, and just dull in general. Even if GW and WoW had way better PvP than FFXI, I still prefer FFXI's PvP because I prefer FFXI over the other two in general. I wanted to fight against other players and formulate new builds and strategies based around FFXI's combat system and job system, so assuming FFXIV ever becomes a great game, I would like to be able to do the same thing.

And that is to slap people around on my Pugilist using completely different strategies than I would in PvE, since this time I'd have to actually outsmart/outplay a human being.

[Eekiki]

Well, here's the thing and once again I'll be using FFXI as an example: I like FFXI as it's both visually appealing and the combat system, to me, is enjoyable. I like the job system, the variety that subjobs provide, and the unique aspects and abilities of all the different jobs and weapons. I played GW and WoW, but found them both boring, ugly, and just dull in general. Even if GW and WoW had way better PvP than FFXI, I still prefer FFXI's PvP because I prefer FFXI over the other two in general. I wanted to fight against other players and formulate new builds and strategies based around FFXI's combat system and job system, so assuming FFXIV ever becomes a great game, I would like to be able to do the same thing.

And that is to slap people around on my Pugilist using completely different strategies than I would in PvE, since this time I'd have to actually outsmart/outplay a human being.

This makes a lot of sense.

"assuming FFXIV ever becomes a great game" ...that's a big "if". ^_^