Let's talk about PvP

[Eugenics]

I would pick (A) but thats becuase the pve in this game is weak at best.

[Rinsui]

It's been recently announced that PvP will be implemented and possibly might play a major roll in end game and/or ranking up.

Nothing of that sort has been announced.
Major role in ranking up?
Where did you get that from?

[Chezen]

Nothing of that sort has been announced.
Major role in ranking up?
Where did you get that from?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...336#post209336

[Arcell]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...336#post209336

All that states is that PvP will be part of end-game, as in after you're all ranked up. It's in the rank up content thread but he kind of went off a bit with the end-game part.

Also structured, consensual PvP is fine by me. It becomes awful when people can gank and grief all they want in PvE areas.

Yes I played Aion, funny thing is so did my current guild leader...one the same server...on the opposite side >.> Needless to say I wasn't really enjoying getting mercilessly slaughtered while trying to actually get to 50. Open world PvP needs to stay out of this game otherwise I'd actually consider leaving lol.

So again I'm all for PvP that is group oriented, optional and adds meaningfully to the game in some manner. They shouldn't add it just for the sake of adding it, give it a reason to be there.

[Cairdeas]

Lets not have PVP and be done with it.

[Eekiki]

Lets not have PVP and be done with it.

Agreed. If I want to do PvP I'll play Team Fortress 2. All MMORPG PvP is nothing more than a glorified pissing contest.

[Demacia]

Agreed. If I want to do PvP I'll play Team Fortress 2. All MMORPG PvP is nothing more than a glorified pissing contest.

That's very close-minded of you and it's both an ignorant and selfish thing to say. Skewed PvP opinions aside, you wouldn't be forced to do it, so why not have it so the people that DO enjoy it can have more reason to throw their money at this game?

[Eekiki]

That's very close-minded of you and it's both an ignorant and selfish thing to say. Skewed PvP opinions aside, you wouldn't be forced to do it, so why not have it so the people that DO enjoy it can have more reason to throw their money at this game?

Because F.3.A.R., BioShock 2, and every Halo game since the first one sucked. You know why they sucked? Because every FPS that gets released that doesn't include some multiplayer aspect gets reamed out by critics and players, so everyone who makes a FPS takes too much of the focus off the single-player campaigns in order to slap together some half-assed multiplayer, even though the only ones who whine about it are the CoD kiddies, and they're going to continue playing CoD regardless, so why do they care?

The result is you end up with these great single-player FPS franchises with fantastic stories getting ruined because the status quo today is "We can't release an FPS without multiplayer!" And this has spilled over to MMORPG's. "We can't release an MMO without PvP!" Because of this, the PvE content ends up being lackluster.

[Demacia]

Because F.3.A.R., BioShock 2, and every Halo game since the first one sucked. You know why they sucked? Because every FPS that gets released that doesn't include some multiplayer aspect gets reamed out by critics and players, so everyone who makes a FPS takes too much of the focus off the single-player campaigns in order to slap together some half-assed multiplayer, even though the only ones who whine about it are the CoD kiddies, and they're going to continue playing CoD regardless, so why do they care?

The result is you end up with these great single-player FPS franchises with fantastic stories getting ruined because the status quo today is "We can't release an FPS without multiplayer!" And this has spilled over to MMORPG's. "We can't release an MMO without PvP!" Because of this, the PvE content ends up being lackluster.

So because modern FPS are awful or you had a bad experience with Aion you think FFXIV should have no PvP? That's just silly. PvE should always come first in an MMO, but that doesn't mean they should leave out the PvP experience. I am not suggesting that PvP should be the prime aspect of FFXIV like it is in some western/korean MMOs, but it should be available and the devs should put a good amount of effort into making it balanced, fun, and enjoyable (unlike the way they stopped caring in FFXI after brenner was released).

By the way, the first Halo had multiplayer, and it was fun. Half-life had multiplayer and it was also very fun. Honestly, what's your point?

[Demacia]

Boy, with a community as open as this who WOULDN'T want to join in on the fun? I can't think of one successful MMO that did not have any PvP at all.