My thoughts on Battle Reform {Jobs}

[Wolfie]

I was kind of hoping that the class system redesign would be a little more dramatic than just solo mode vs party mode. Locking classes to one weapon is a recipe for disaster, as is keeping the old, boring, homogeneous classes is a recipe for disaster.

lol do you even have a real char? or you just don't want to display it? i find that very funny

What does that have to do with anything?

[Prox]

Man... They should have just kept their traps shut until they had everything panned out as to avoid these kneejerk reactions.

This is amusing considering how many complaints there are about SE not giving us updates on their plans lol

[NefGP]

I've already started a ton of threads about how this system is going to be boring and fail.

The end result will most likely be another overhaul in 6-10 months that just implements the FFXI job system back in place.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ob-to-1-Weapon.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...8FFT-Traits%29
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-is-Important
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...t-unlocks-them.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...new-Job-System
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...t-Jobs-dev1033
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Class-Renaming


As an FF Veteran, And I am not even referring to FF XI, but all final fantasy's. This is the worst implementation of the "Job System" to date. But my only major gripe is the fact that I can't chose my favorite weapon for my favorite job, even if in past FF's it was a choice, it wont be one in FFXIV which makes it boring and less able to fulfill my nostalgia brackets.

That remains to be seen, but so far I have to say that this game is looking more and more like XI 2.0 and that's not a good thing. I find it hilarious how people keep saying not to assume Haste won't be absurdly broken like it is in XI... when we have the very same devs who ran XI for 8 years working on this game. It's not like there isn't a good precedent to base my assumptions on.


The Job system, as proposed, feels like a big gamble. It could turn out to be really cool, or it might be epic fail. At the very least it should make organizing parties easier. I kind of like the way it is now though, as it reminds me more of FFT where you could mix & match abilities of all the job classes.

What we're getting basically amounts to official builds of each class from SE, or at least that's how it looks. We won't know until the update for sure, but I'm remaining skeptical.

[Cairdeas]

lol do you even have a real char? or you just don't want to display it? i find that very funny

My main character is not tied to this account. This account is tied to my original SE members account which is tied to my FFXI Account. It has an Active FFXIV character on it, but I have no need to display it and instead am using the character display to tell people I intend to play a Female Roegadyn once they are released. I do have a level 50 on my other FFXIV account, but even her I haven't played much lately.

as it reminds me more of FFT

Thats odd, Because in FFT I had an army of white mages roving the countryside with axes and various sub skills. Could heal anyone from across the map and dish out massive damage.

I loved FFT. Starting to wish I had been vocal in asking for an FFT based Job system instead.

[Corrderio]

Same here, I honestly dont see the point, I'm sure you've seen the list that's been floating around from the beta times of all the classes. I thought that was going to be way more interesting than recycling old class names.
They still could've given paladin like abilities to gladiator and so forth. The current classes needed to be more polished and not remade. Personally, when I looked at that list and seen jobs like Fencer, Musketeer, Archanist, I was excited. I knew SE was going to recycle their previous concepts to some extent but it was going to be something different atleast on the surface, I even thought we may see jobs like Geomancer, or Astrologist or something like that.
Also, what I find boring is the fact that even if they add those 7 jobs it's still 7 combat jobs we going to play as they are just extensions of current classes. And from all this talk the earliest we going to see that is November (post 1.20). Last year I thought by this November there will be atleast lvl cap raise and 7 new classes playable.

I really wish Yoshida did go with that list instead of the job system. I know the jobs need some roles/exclusives but at the same time I like the freedom since you didn't need that "one class" to be in a party (Let's face it, even with level synth it was annoying searching constantly for a tank/healer). And it would be nice to bring some fresh/new ideas into the series instead of the tired and old things we've been given for the past 2 decades. I'd love to see staves/maces as an actual decent weapon instead of something that only mages usually use and then some.

[Zenaku]

I was kind of hoping that the class system redesign would be a little more dramatic than just solo mode vs party mode. Locking classes to one weapon is a recipe for disaster, as is keeping the old, boring, homogeneous classes is a recipe for disaster.



What does that have to do with anything?

Noting it was a offtopic question.....

[Sephr]

I loved FFT. Starting to wish I had been vocal in asking for an FFT based Job system instead.

Because that would've changed things. Honestly, you think of your own opinions far too highly.

I like this system, it'll let me level up a class and have access to a lot of different content without having to keep starting over (after they've increased the number of jobs, that is).

I do agree that the current classes need to have more character, though. Currently they feel too similar, but I think we'll see that kind of thing fixed with new animations and abilities being shuffled around.

[Malakhim]

This is amusing considering how many complaints there are about SE not giving us updates on their plans lol

They're pretty much in a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation, but they can mitigate damage if they use proper information dissemination. I think that one of the biggest problems is all the "we're looking into it" responses or playing coy with key details like answers to "Is 1-to-1 class/job permanent?" In the scenario of the latter, you can't not have any specific plans if you've already gotten that far into the dev stage, so really it shouldn't be that hard to give specific responses.

If it's a matter of corporate red tape(which I would hope isn't the case) then instead of trickling out details, wait until ALL the plans for whatever topic of interest are in the green for discussion. The wait will suck to be sure, but at least everything will be on the table and we can avoid unnecessary worry.

Example: MZ and a bunch of other people flipping their shit all over different threads all because of a few missing(but important) details.

[Arasiel]

Anyone who played Marauder during launch and equipped dark spells can kiss that sweet Dark Knight with a 2H sword goodbye. You get Marauder -> Dark Knight... Welcome to DRK with a 2H Axe. Having fun yet? No?

[Shyd]

I loved FFT. Starting to wish I had been vocal in asking for an FFT based Job system instead.

Me too, i wish the "job system" would be like tatics.

It was a good system, and it worked great.