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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waeksyn View Post
    I think it would be great to allow you to change to (only) a missing job whenever your party is down a player (someone has dropped, etc). If you lose a tank or healer, change jobs and fill much quicker from the DPS queue. I really don't see any way this could be abused.
    This is how I imagined it as well.

    To prevent abuse, they could implement the following:

    -Only allow a job change when a member is missing
    -Make the party vote to approve the change
    -Don't allow a job change when there is loot on the table
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 05-02-2014 at 01:15 AM.

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    Airget Lamh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    This is how I imagined it as well.

    To prevent abuse, they could implement the following:

    -Only allow a job change when a member is missing
    -Make the party vote to approve the change
    -Don't allow a job change when there is loot on the table
    Could still be abused, think about a group of 3 enter, and the person wanting healing gear just didn't feel like healing but wants to need on potential on last chest.

    Before they get to last boss they vote kick the healer and then vote to change the person who wants healing gear into healer. Then a random DD joins oblivious to what just happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Could still be abused, think about a group of 3 enter, and the person wanting healing gear just didn't feel like healing but wants to need on potential on last chest.

    Before they get to last boss they vote kick the healer and then vote to change the person who wants healing gear into healer. Then a random DD joins oblivious to what just happened.
    Very true, but honestly, any system can (and will) be abused. I think in this case, the benefit of having this as option would far out-weigh the potential abuse that may happen. And my list definitely wouldn't cover everything, just a good starting point as to the restrictions they could place in order to keep the abuse at bay. Guess I should have used "limit abuse" vs. "prevent abuse". D:
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 05-02-2014 at 05:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Could still be abused, think about a group of 3 enter, and the person wanting healing gear just didn't feel like healing but wants to need on potential on last chest.

    Before they get to last boss they vote kick the healer and then vote to change the person who wants healing gear into healer. Then a random DD joins oblivious to what just happened.
    There aren't any instances where this would really make sense. It seems like an extreme edge case. It would also fall into reportable for abuse of the vote-kick system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Whilst the intent is good, it would be exploited by denying people who don't have certain jobs leveled, I can get any runs with my DRG, but that would change if this was added the basic would be BLMs only for trash, change to specific classes for the mini bosses then change back to BLM for more trash, and to specific jobs for the boss, just look at all brayflox HM myth speed runs all are BLM only just to kill aoe trash down it will be the same if class changes in dungeons were allowed (remember AV in 1.0, all BLMs for the run, and change to MNK for the boss? how does anyone think that will be different now?
    You're ignoring the premise for the need/request for this feature; to replace a missing member. Your scenario wouldn't be possible under those conditions.
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    Last edited by L-D-Omlette; 05-02-2014 at 06:54 AM.

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    Jinko Jinko
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Could still be abused, think about a group of 3 enter, and the person wanting healing gear just didn't feel like healing but wants to need on potential on last chest.

    Before they get to last boss they vote kick the healer and then vote to change the person who wants healing gear into healer. Then a random DD joins oblivious to what just happened.
    That is why people are suggesting you can only need on the class/job you originally entered the dungeon as.
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