Even after all this time... still stuck on "Gale-force Warning" quest. (Garuda EX)

[Lemon8or]

I just completed this by getting into a farm party (as you suggested) and had to hide the fact that I'd never completed the battle before

This is wrong on so many levels. If you're gonna join a farm party, at least let the leader know you haven't cleared it but will boot yourself out if you make party wiping mistakes.

Many people did it with 1 healer and most of PF teams were set for 1 healer. Fight is a dps check, no matter big or small team will wipe if it fails.

People didn't do it because it's a DPS check. People do it because the fight is easy enough to solo heal so they just want to get it done faster.

For titan you will need a 20% echo buff, be sure echo haters will say i am wrong.

I don't hate echo. It helps me make up for other people that are not as familiar to the fight as I do. You don't really need 20% echo per se. It just helps people recover from mistakes. It also helps killing the heart before circle bomb that so many people aren't good at dodging.

[Dalvy]

This is wrong on so many levels. If you're gonna join a farm party, at least let the leader know you haven't cleared it but will boot yourself out if you make party wiping mistakes.

If they downed the boss and he got what he wanted, what's the issue?

[kineticmedic]

Congrats on the Win Raxiaz, and good luck with Titan, that one is subject to the wonders of server/client lag time, but it can be done.

-KM

[Lemon8or]

If they downed the boss and he got what he wanted, what's the issue?

The issue is people coming into a farm party expecting a certain level of mastery of the fight that usually takes clearing the fight to do so. It doesn't apply for Garuda EX as much since the eye and tornado phase repeats until enrage so as long as you see it once, you're good. If you do this to Titan where the last phase is a whole different monster, you're gonna get booted if you mess it up.

[Bombast]

If they downed the boss and he got what he wanted, what's the issue?

Never been in a Titan Ex 'Farm' party before, have you?

[Hardware_Hank]

I'm sorry but all of the primal fights are easy, if you cant pass any of them how do you expect to do any coil runs past turn 4?

[lxSch]

People didn't do it because it's a DPS check. People do it because the fight is easy enough to solo heal so they just want to get it done faster.

I don't hate echo. It helps me make up for other people that are not as familiar to the fight as I do. You don't really need 20% echo per se. It just helps people recover from mistakes. It also helps killing the heart before circle bomb that so many people aren't good at dodging.

If a certain fight is a dps check then it is reasonable to get as many dps as needed, right? Then in PF/DF team you cannot know how good other players are, so isn't it safer to ensure dps will be sufficient?
Everyone should understand that after a certain time of practice primal ex can be completed without echo, and it was proved in 2.1 many times. But echo is usually needed for people without enough practice, so they can complete the trial with a lesser learning time and gear.
Then statistic comes in place - all my garuda kills were at 15-20% echo while my friend did titan and ifrit at 20% (those fights are not much worth farming so it will be only 2 occasions). Based on statistic in 2.2 echo is needed for most of teams.

[Velox]

I'm sorry but all of the primal fights are easy

That's pretty subjective and doesn't really address the OP's problem.
What you find easy, someone else might find difficult and frustrating. What you find difficult and frustrating, someone else might find to be a walk in the park.

Everyone has different strengths and weaknesses.

[melflomil]

Haha, that's how you do it. If you know you can beat but keep failing because of other people's mistake. Do it. Good luck in Titan though. Lol

[Raxiaz]

Seriously. I know how to kill Garuda EX. Just because I hadn't cleared it doesn't mean I didn't know what to do and when to do it. Most of my failures were on the part of other people so please explain how I should be punished for others' mistakes? Hell, I died the least out of everybody who was in the group... lol people think clearing = experience... when in the same damn topic there are people suggesting to buy wins... the irony is abundant.

Currently watching all the Titan EX videos I can find on the internet to acquaint myself with the attack patterns before running lolz runs on DF. Are all players presumptuous arses or is it just on the forum?