Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
You know someone's got a weak point when the only thing they can resort to doing is calling an opposing opinion a "troll". Something that does not benefit you right now but benefits you later still benefits you, unless of course you give up.

Doesn't matter if you have atma or not, it does not change how grindy the book portion is. I also strongly believe a lot of whining people stuck on Atma that are saying "oh the book portion is a lot more fun!" are just simply saying that out of frustration and would most likely have whined about that if the Atma portion never existed and we started at books.

I don't consider myself "lucky", having 14 Atmas myself with over 1400 FATEs completed. The difference between me and you though, is that I actually know what the book portion is like, and you don't. And I've found that farming the 13500 myth to even purchase the books is far more time consuming than farming 12 Atma.




You cannot farm myth quickly by yourself. Assuming perfect circumstances (6-8min bray first two boss runs, a good party is always available to grind with, the runs are perfect and nobody screws up, and minimal time is spent between runs), that's 270 brayflox speedruns at 41 hours assuming each run takes 9 minutes including time spent between runs. Throw in the time spent for the average person waiting on parties and time spent on errors or slow runs and that number goes significantly higher. And if you're a DPS that isn't a Black Mage/Bard? Too bad because most PFs only take those and myth runs take significantly longer without a Black Mage. I'm an i94 BLM capable of making runs take 6 minutes and I still have spent significantly more time farming the Myth than farming Atmas.

One can even argue that the most effective way to farm myth is an even more tedious boring grind because you repeat literally the same thing for hours, while the most effective way to farm Atma has more variety to it.

And don't think the RNG goes away when you get to books either, because you'll end up waiting on FATEs that can take up to 4+ hours to spawn. Some of those FATEs are activated only by talking to NPCs, meaning you have to camp the area they spawn at or you will never see them pop.

But who cares. I can have an opinion backed up by several valid points and be called a troll by whiny forum posters salty about not having Atmas.
Sorry i do not agree with you at all.

First off i have 2 atma done and currently working on my third which stuck at 3/12 for 2 weeks. So there is no difference between how we know about the book portion is like.
I have done 4 books (3 for sword 1 for shield on my PLD) and i find that alot more fun cause it is not all or nothing and it is progressive for everything u done.

I am ilvl 91 blm.. and 89 to 91 for all class (i have farmed T1 to T4 and obtain every single loot, i got all 3x9 primal HM before ex is out, i have all primal ex weapon before 2.2 hit and i have only monk belt caster glove and healer hat lacking from CT as of now).

i clear 24 atma + 3 more at about 2.2k / 3k on that achievement.

Valid point? you have no valid point here. and by calling me whiny forum poster u just did a direct verbal assault. edit edit edti